New Island for IOA?

Couldn't agree more Moosh. If your trying to make a case for IOA expanding or not expanding for the future, dragging in CP or California Adventure is a shady way to do it. Three different parks with three different goals. It's like comparing Six Flags Great Adventure to Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk. You can do it, but it doesn't make much sense.

And talk of hypercoasters and B&M flyers seems absurd to me. Universal isn't interested in coaster wars. If they add another coaster it will have to be unique and offer a twist that fits the goal of the park. Other than that, has the park given *any* indication that they're done building? I doubt it.

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I thought CP had a great atmosphere when I visited in 2001. I don't think IOA wants to install a hyper because it would ruin their skyline.

But DW, everyone knows a park without a B&M flyer or hyper is incomplete and totally not worth visiting.

Oh...and to everyone else, that was sarcasm.

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"God put animals here for us to eat them! I didn't rise to the top of the food chain just to have a salad!" - Bassistist

Hey, I know you guys have a lot (make that a LOT) of fun with us Floridians, but the closest hyper IS a long LONG way away for us....the Beemer flyer I can get at SFoG, but we *do* deserve a hyper, sometime, somewhere...IoA, wouldn't bet on it...

And then, there's reality....back to IOA's *new island*....WHERE? I'd suspect that any expansion plans would be as PART of an existing land within IoA....but that's me...;)

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"As clear as mud for over 35 years"...and still going STRONG...thanks, Redman...:)

I should have been more specific with my comparison of CP and Coney Island. I think CP brings out the feelings of the Coney Island of the past. CP isn't trying to be anything other than a great traditional amusement park.

There is room, in my opinion, for a CP and an IOA and a (blasphemy) Magic Mountain. I enjoy them all.

Gator - I suspect you'll most likely eventually find your hyper at the same place as your flyer.

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"God put animals here for us to eat them! I didn't rise to the top of the food chain just to have a salad!" - Bassistist

Actually Moosh, I already have a few rides in mind for SFoG...and none of them are a hyper...What DO I have in mind for SFoG - read the danged TR, wouldya? (Oh, that's right, I'm being told it isn't finished yet).

IoA...I'll always want a highly themed woodie for the place, but on a more realistic note....Flying swings over the lake would be nice, a Huss Giant ride would do well...whatever it is, it needs to have good capacity and a GREAT job of theming...:)

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"As clear as mud for over 35 years"...and still going STRONG...thanks, Redman...:)

From what I know from people I have talked to IOA will not be getting anything new for some time. They need to work on the park next to it and fix that up frist.

Understood WS. It makes much more sense to me to compare *personal* feelings and experiences at two different types of parks, than to wonder why(ex.) CP has a rocket coaster, and IOA doesn't, or have visions of a B&M flyer at DCA. After awhile, every park would just become a glorified Six Flags park.

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Well there have been reports on IOAcentral about balloon tests going on in the JP area of the park. I havn't really heard to much into detail, but there is a ton of room between JP:RA, and Dudley, as well as Flying Unicorn and JP:RA. As to what the ride is, who knows. They will have a new coaster opening at USF next year, so my only guess for the JP ride would be some type of dark ride ( forever rumored jeep ride), perhaps something along the lines of Rhino Ralley, but actually done right where there is some suspense and thrill. With Spiderman being built at the new China park I can just about garuntee that IOA will be getting something to top Spidey. They'll need something to be the new anchor attraction for the park...

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For what it's worth --

http://members.tripod.com/~GLBsCoasterZone/ioa-const.html

I hope whatever gets added to IOA in the future is developed heavily by Universal Creative. I'd much prefer a unique *adventure* over any off-the-shelf ride I can potentially find elsewhere.

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BlueStreak83 said:
I was on thrillride.com and read the report on Universal's Islands of Adventure. First off, I couldn't agree more, IOA is the greatest theme park ever and did something I never thought an amusement park could do...give Cedar Point a run for its money. Well at the end of the report, as many of you probaly know, it is hinted that jeeps will soon roam Jurassic Park, an additional island is being planned, and that the Grinch will make a home of Suess Landing. Now IOA hasn't had a new ride since its opening in 1999 and its more than time for something new to come to the islands. Interestingly, The Grinch was at IOA when I went there this year, so part of the prediction came true. So what of the jeep ride and this new island. It seems maybe IOA has more land than people thought. Maybe a Lords of the Rings Island, Middle-Earth. Lol, maybe its a bit of a stretch but a man can hope. :)

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Greatest theme park ever? I'd have to give IOA #2 and Tokyo Disney Sea #1.

Maddie - thanks for the link, but those "construction pics" are from 1999. Methinks if something was going in any of the spots featured we would be riding by now.

Moosh

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"God put animals here for us to eat them! I didn't rise to the top of the food chain just to have a salad!" - Bassistist

Word. But, it does show where any proposed attractions would go, and it helps to get an idea of what may or may not fit. There's really very little space left around IOA's perimeter, it seems. I'd expect to find room for two or three major attractions, and if that's the case, they won't be in *any* rush to add them. There's no point in expanding to capacity and using up all of your future potential for opening a brand new ride when it's not necessary for the bottom line.

True, Maddie....true. I suspect IOA is thinking of expansion along the same lines of Disney: S-L-O-W-L-Y.

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"God put animals here for us to eat them! I didn't rise to the top of the food chain just to have a salad!" - Bassistist

Maddie apparently wasn't in charge of the SFWoA expansion plan...;)

Mamoosh said:

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CP, IOA, Coney, DCA...why are you people comparing them? They each offer something unique and do it well, but it's still a case of "apples and oranges."

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Not to beat a dead horse (what's that I hear? I'm too late? Oh, well...), but I think you're missing something, here. While it is a case of "apples and oranges" when you consider targeted demagraphics, overall strategy, and the like, when it comes to personal experience and prefference, it is certainly possible to favor one over the other. After all, they parks do provide similiar experiences. And, you can sit back at the end of the day, and wonder whether or not you had as much fun at one place as another. Would I recomend doing so? No. Do I do it? Well, I can't speak, specificaly about most of the parks in question, but I do value my trips to WDW, CP, and SFGAm equally. But, if I wanted to compare them I certainly could. So, don't say that you can't compare CP to IOS in terms of having a good time: Just because you like them both equally, for their respective strengths, doesn't mean others feel the same way.

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I hear America screaming...

All I'm saying is this...if you want to see what/where IOA/Citywalk has expansion planned, go get a job at Universal and take a look at the map they have on the back wall. It shows three plots of land labeled "future atrraction" at IOA and two plots, or buildings, if you will, labeled "future attraction" at the 'Studios. Not to mention the two buildings in Citywalk labeled "future club".

New lands? Don't count on it. New attractions? Certainly. When? It's anyone's guess...

Oh yeah, don't think that you can just walk in there, look at the map and leave. Security is tight. Sorry...

Having to been to Islands dozens of times, I can tell you that it's one of my favorite theme parks. However, as much as I love it, I feel that it needs "more to do". The rides/attractions that it does have are world-class, but they need more of them. As said by several people earlier, Isladns hasn't had any major rides added since it opened and only two new attractions since then (and they were 3 years ago)! While I like the idea of a wooden coaster inside of JP, I really don't think the nearby residents would approve such a noisy ride. I would really like to see them build a custom-layout B&M flyer themed to Pteradactyls (sp?). And as for it being tree-height to not disturb the look of JP, I don't think that matters since the River Adventure bldg is about 100' tall. The T-Rex Jeep sequence would make a fantastic attraction, but I don't know how it would have the people capacity to be worth the investment.

Finally, while a new island would be great, they still have plenty of room in their currents islands to expand on first, i.e. a Grinch bobsled coaster in Seuss Landing and new ride/coaster in Toon Lagoon. I would personally love to see a ride based on Spaceman Spiff from Calvin and Hobbs!!

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