New Innovations in Coasters

Friday, July 11, 2003 4:19 AM
Just thought I would start a thread a see what everyone had for input. We started out with our traditional Wooden coaster, then we had the steel coaster with chain lift, , suspended, stand-up, inverted, launched, water, 4-D, looping wooden, etc. So what does everyone think is coming down the pipeline for the future as in new innovations for coasters???
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Friday, July 11, 2003 4:35 AM
Just an idea; self propelled trains?! Obviously it would completly change the way steel coasters are engineered today- but wouldn't that be cool!

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Friday, July 11, 2003 4:40 AM

Zingo! said:
Just an idea; self propelled trains?! Obviously it would completly change the way steel coasters are engineered today- but wouldn't that be cool!

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Been done both with Scwarzkopf Whizzer style trains and powered mine rides, I believe.

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Friday, July 11, 2003 4:45 AM
But then its no longer a "coaster", that's just a car ride on rails. I honestly don't know where the next step will come from. I have some ideas, but I'll hang on to those in hopes I'll make millions some day ;) *evil laugh*

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Friday, July 11, 2003 4:49 AM
Didn 't intend for this to be a "rip-off", Coaster Bob. I thought it looked like you were making a list of what all of the "World's Firsts" were. I didn't see how that related to what people thought innovations for the future were going to be.........If you tie those two to be one in the same, I apologize......
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Friday, July 11, 2003 5:16 AM
Speaking of "powered coasters," does anybody have any information on this ride at Bushkill Park:
http://www.coasterimage.com/bkp/bkp03.htm

I want to say it was made by Mangels but I'm not sure why I think that now.

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Friday, July 11, 2003 5:51 AM
Well, the 4-D still has a TON of implications and also has a long way to go. The tilt coaster is another ride that has a lot of implications and hasn't really gone very far yet. Who knows what the designers are cooking up right now!!

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Friday, July 11, 2003 6:02 AM
How about a launched wooden coaster into a heavily forested ravine?!!!

Wood - anything else is an imitation

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Friday, July 11, 2003 6:30 AM
The huge expenses of building massive structures to achieve ludicrous speeds can be easily reduced by using launch systems as well as applied as boosters. See Speed: The Ride.

Read somewhere that Intamin are/were working on a 200mph launch! The above principle is essentially the same as powered coasters. Vekoma had a video of a continuous LSM powered coaster themed to a F1 racetrack. Pretty cool.

If you want real speed & efficiency, think MAGLEV. I.e magnetically levitated trains that can coast along or propel themselves along at any point on the track. Only friction is air resistance.

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Friday, July 11, 2003 7:00 AM
How about a coaster that jumps the tracks. The coaster can be themed around this legend:

http://montanakids.com/db_engine/presentations/presentation.asp?pid=392&sub=Famous+Montanans
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Friday, July 11, 2003 7:08 AM
Well then...Cedar Point would want to build the tallest, steepest, fastest version of it. Right?!!!

Wood anything else is just an imitation

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Friday, July 11, 2003 7:21 AM
Here's an idea...how 'bout an upside down coaster that goes right side up ten times?!!!!

Wood - anything else is just an imitation

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Friday, July 11, 2003 7:31 AM
Even though I think this sounds a little crazy/imposible and maybe a little stupid, to some people, I think that a wooden stand-up would be cool. I mean they would have to widen tracks and have 2 person rows (like the first stand-ups developed) and the track would have to be smoother than any other woodie. I think something like that would really have a cool out of control feeling that only a woodie can give and it would be a really cool type of coaster.

Also I think that the 4-D type of coaster has a lot in store for it in the future if they can make it so it doesn't ware out so many tires, so it can be run everyday and not just on weekends(X).

Finally, I think and hope that flyers will advance and bigger, longer, faster, and ones with more and better inversions will emerge.
*** This post was edited by Mike E. 7/11/2003 11:32:23 AM ***

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Friday, July 11, 2003 8:32 AM
I still say there is a way to incorporate a true barrel roll into a ride one were the caste actually says at the same level all the way through and just rotates around it's longitudinal axis.
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Friday, July 11, 2003 8:51 AM

millrace said:
Speaking of "powered coasters," does anybody have any information on this ride at Bushkill Park:
http://www.coasterimage.com/bkp/bkp03.htm

I want to say it was made by Mangels but I'm not sure why I think that now.


I was under the impression that the park made that one themselves. Like you, I have no reason why I thought that.

I do know that I couldn't convince Duane at RCDB that it was a coaster - although he gives it a mention:

http://www.rcdb.com/locationdetail888.htm

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Friday, July 11, 2003 8:52 AM
I'm not sure of what the future of coasters will be, I think the 4th dimension should be very popular once they work out the bugs, and or another company makes a better one. Flying coasters also look like the next trend.

I personally have an idea for a dream theme park. It's somewhat of a cross betwean Disneyland and Islands of Adventure, only bigger, better, and much more expensive. I think that the best thing would be elaborate theming with no compromise for cost (truly a dream).

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Friday, July 11, 2003 9:57 AM
What about tilt coaster mixed with launched? Like you load normally, but before you launch you tilt upwards or downwards and launch, you could even do a veritcal launch, that would rule.

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Friday, July 11, 2003 10:11 AM
How about a wooden-suspended coaster?

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Friday, July 11, 2003 10:28 AM
a wooden suspeneded coaster wouldn'r work. Wooden rollercoasters are great because "wood" is all around you. If you make a wooden suspended it would defeat the purpose.

BTW, it would have to be a CCI type track for a stand-up.(alot of cars for smoothness. like villan at SF:WoA

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Ryan
*** This post was edited by steelphantom 7/11/2003 2:30:16 PM ***

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Friday, July 11, 2003 10:33 AM
Lord:

I've seen old pictures of similar-looking "coasters" leading me to believe that the ride wasn't home made.

It shows up in the Kennywood video where they call it a "Brownie Roller Coaster."

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