New info on phantoms revenge!

Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:09 PM
from a local news station (WTAE) ive heard that the phantoms revenge will travel at 86 miles per hour. At 230 ft, how can this ride be faster then goliath(or atleast i think faster than goliath. all shows clock it at 85 mph)
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Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:33 PM
Perhaps because it starts the 230 ft hill at a faster speed. Goliaths largest hill is its lift hill, therefore it crests the top at low speed. phantoms largest hill is the second hill in the ride, therefore it crests this hill at higher speed.

and now a word from the physics maniacs...

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My name is Jason, and I'm addicted to coasters. *** This post was edited by jdancisin on 3/28/2001. ***
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Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:34 PM
I don't know the stats on Goliath, but the descent on PR is to be 5-10 feet longer than that of the Steel Phantom, also the turn at the bottom is not sharp anymore, leaving less resistance. This should allow for a faster ride which maintains speed throughout more of the ride.

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I refuse to add a signature. Damn, too late. *** This post was edited by kpjb on 3/29/2001. ***
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Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:35 PM

Jdancisin is correct on a point, also. PR is going aprox. 15MPH at the crest of the 2nd (longest) hill. Off of lift chain, you're lucky to crest at 5MPH. Another 10MPH there.
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Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:56 PM
Also, the rolling stock is completely different, which has a lot to do with speed.

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Don't touch the watch.
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Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:50 PM
Actually, they are going to use the original Phantom trains and put new harness-free Morgan-styled bodies on them. Same running gear, different body.
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"Autobots: Transform and roll out!"
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Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:53 PM
Kennywood is keeping the FRAMES of the old Arrow SP cars. Same wheels, and metal structure. The actual look (and, of course, aerodynamics) of the trains will be different because the fiberglass bodies on the trains will be entirely new. When it was decided to retro fit the old Arrow bodies without OTSR's, it became apparent that this was the best way to go. (KP is very concerned that the "average joe" won't see this as the same old Phantom. Hence the color change for the track, and yes, a body and color change for the rolling stock.)


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I refuse to add a signature. Damn, too late. *** This post was edited by kpjb on 3/29/2001. ***
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Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:01 PM
What is up with the double-up??? Still haven't seen any pics on it. Have they built it or is the idea just canned??
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Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:16 PM
THe double-up is out. I was looking forward to it, but the idea of cruising along the flat in the newly designed, open-air (hopefully) cars is appealing too...

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--Greg

http://www.pobox.com/~gregleg/
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Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:22 PM
This is so 5 minutes ago...
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Thursday, March 29, 2001 5:36 PM
So how come you posted 5 minutes later??? :)
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An unnerving stillness in the woods of southern Indiana beckons for you on May 11th.....
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Friday, March 30, 2001 4:07 PM
HEY, does any one know how many coaches the trains wil have, and how many benches?
That could be a major factor with speed as well!
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"Autobots: Transform and roll out!"
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Friday, March 30, 2001 4:17 PM
When is the ride even slated to open?
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Friday, March 30, 2001 4:51 PM
I don't know how many cars each train will have. I'd guess they'll still be 4-seat cars, since the chassis aren't changing.

No official date has been set, but the Kennywood site says "May 2001." That is, of course, if everything goes flawlessly from here on in.

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Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com
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