new idea for next intamin impulses

Friday, October 26, 2001 1:12 AM
As we know, the first intamin impulse (Linear Gale) didn't have a twisted spike, or a brake on the back tower. Since many of the current Intamin Impulses are having problems with the back brake(actually magnets) I thought it would be cool if the next generation just had two twisted spikes. It would make the back of the train a lot more worthwhile... what do you think? I think spiraling towards the ground at 90 degrees sounds great!

 

-djansi

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Friday, October 26, 2001 4:09 AM
Hmmmm..........I am liking his idea.  It would feel like a spiraling nose dive in an aircraft.  Now that is something we dont feel everyday.  ;)

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Friday, October 26, 2001 4:23 AM
that's my idea of what CP is getting this year...  perhaps with an increase in heighth as well.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 4:51 AM
I like the holding brake.... Much more than I would like another twisted spike.

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Friday, October 26, 2001 5:42 AM
DJ, just because SFMW's v2 is having problems with the LIMs on its back spike doesn't mean that it a problem prone to all of the models.  v2 at SFGAm does not have any problem with the LIMs on its back spike, and as far as I know S:UE hs no problems with it either.  The only reason yours isn't fixed is probably because the ride would need to shutdown for a considerable amount of time to fix the LIMs, and they figure people would rather just ride it without for now, until the off season.
And, since you haen't experienced the back spike LIMs hold you, I wouldn't be so quick to have them removed.  That is one of the coolest feelings, being held there, face down at 90 degrees, falling into your harness.  I think a dual twisted spike track would get really boring.

*** This post was edited by SFGRAMBoy20 on 10/26/2001. ***

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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:08 AM
Ask and you shall receive... just think 450 degrees of total rotation.

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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:14 AM
Not to mention watching the ground spiral away from you! 450 degrees of rotation? I'm thinking about it.......

Why not throw an invrsion or a barrel roll in there? Of course, it would increase the size of the footprint. Maybe an overbanked turn, I'd like to hit one of those backwards.

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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:19 AM
Jeff! Did you just flat out tell us what its going to be or what?!?! I'm a little confused on the 450º roatation thought though. Would that Mean Like, less of a twist like, S:UE At SFWOA has an Almost 360º Rotation on the Twisted Spike, This Will Go Beyond that? I'm A Little Confused about something off this Topic, When Jeff first stated that they were getting something new, And Jeff had said that They Were looking into a Product that is new on the Market... Since this Impulse isnt a New thing on the Market, Maybe They will be getting two coasters for the 2002 Season... Just Specualtion, But Comment... Please I wanna Know what you Guys think about it Also!
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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:20 AM
Of Course I am At School Right Now, Not Like a Main Class Or Anything, But a Study hall, I'm leaving in 10 minutes For Lunch and then have another 1/2 hour Of Studay Hall So I'll Check Back to See Whats Up with the Action of this Fourm. =o)
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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:24 AM
I don't see why there can't be a holding brake even though there is a spiral...the train would just have to make it up to a point where the track has straightened above the spiral.


Jeff said:
Ask and you shall receive... just think 450 degrees of total rotation.

What!?! Does that mean 450 degrees on both towers without a holding brake? If there isn't a holding brake, then I wouldn't be surprised...that LIM takes an incredible amout of juice to "stall" the train.


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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:36 AM
Actually MF probably takes less juice than you think since it's cable (probably counter balanced) and I'm pretty sure the drums are hydraulically powered. But that's way off topic.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:37 AM

Jeff said:
Ask and you shall receive... just think 450 degrees of total rotation.  

Does that mean I win the grand prize for guessing the new coaster at CP?  Cool, so I get my prize which is... 
A trip to CP and I get to pay just like everyone else.  :o)

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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:38 AM
XFlighter...for what? The elevator lift takes just as much energy to pulled a train to the top...maybe less. And the brakes are rare earth magnets that don't take any energy to stop the train...so what do you mean by that statement?

When posting several things in a row, you should edit them into one message if they are that important.

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*** This post was edited by CPgenius on 10/26/2001. ***

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Friday, October 26, 2001 8:21 AM
Actually, Millennium Force's OS (Operating System) Cost $8 Million, The Most Expensive Around. That Sucks Up a Ton Of Juice. And Yes, The Train is Counterweighted, I've Seen this While On CP & LE RR.... Anyway, Those "Rare Eath Magnets" , Why Dont they Kick in the First Time you Go Up the vertical Spike? because they Dont have Electricity Running through Them, And just The Littlest Bit Of Electricity will Activate then to Attract to the Opposite Pole On the Other Side Of the Fin that Runs down the Center of the Train. Think of A Magnetic Force Piercing that Plate, And Holding the Train there, and it only Holds it there for a tenth of a Second (.1 seconds) and thats not Very long, The ride is Only 50 seconds it self, So I don't See How It Could Run That Much Of A Bill Up. There Are Alot Of Computers Below the Loading Platform, If I'm Right I think On the Discovery Channel it Said $4 Million worth. I could Quite Possibly Be Wrong, But I Know its not "Alot of juice"
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Friday, October 26, 2001 8:27 AM
It also Sort of Sounds like You Are Comparing the Brakes on Millennium Force to Those On The Vertical Spike Of S:UE, They Are Completely Different! Sure, the LIM's have Magnets in them that Will Stop the Train, But, Thats Only Because They are in the Position that the LIMs in the Station Are when The Train is Stationary. They dont even really "Completely" Stop you at all, its more like The LIM's Are Detaining... you Are Sliding Down Toward the Ground, Weather you like it or not... the LIM's cannot Completely Stop you, they are not more Powerful than Gravity is, because, The LIM's Can Only put Out as Much Power or "Juice"As What is Put into them.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 8:42 AM
What the hell are you talking about? Is it necessary to make a dozen posts inside one hour to the same thread? Do You Have To Capitalize Ever Word? What are you talking about with operating systems and counterweights?

The holding LIM's on SUE don't take "a lot of juice" and from what has been described to me, they use big capacitors to store electricity to avoid drawing too much current at once.

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Friday, October 26, 2001 8:56 AM
XFlighter, what are you talking about? You just posted 2 conflicting statements. I said that the earth magnets on MF used no energy because you claimed to used up a lot of juice...which it doesn't.

The reason the holding LIM takes so many more amps is because for a magnet to hold the train, it has to make up for the several tons on weigh of the train. On Extreme Rides 2001, they featured S:UE and went into the whole energy consumption deal. They explain it in detail, and make sure to point out how many more amps it takes for the holding LIM.

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*** This post was edited by CPgenius on 10/26/2001. ***

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Friday, October 26, 2001 9:35 AM
a 90 degree spiral facing downward will be awesome if it is done.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 10:51 AM
What if they made a complete circuit??? It could go up the first spike a little, charge back go through like half of the current spiral and go backwards right above the station with like a barrel roll on the straight track above the station. Then it could stop the train and do it in reverse. Now that would be cool.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 11:06 AM
Uhhhh, if it stopped and went backwards through the whole thing, it wouldn't be a complete circuit, would it?  That would still be a shuttle coaster.
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