new CP construction pics - its big!

I think it is going to have a very high capacity. There might be 2 trains, definitely not 3. Since it seems the duration of the ride won't be that long, it will have a high capacity.

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If only it was 90 degrees in the winter Dorney could be open.

Why not three...same setup as MF with 2 stations.

Yes it's a short ride, but I doubt we'll see any mind blowing capacity. Xcellerator has 2 trains and one station. It's capacity is like 800 at best. Add a 2nd station, a 3rd train, and perhaps launch outside of the station and we may see a 1200-1400 capacity maybe.

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- Peabody

*** This post was edited by Peabody on 12/8/2002. ***

Peabody said:

CornballFreak said:
Well if it's not really tht great (which I know it won't be)

Give me a break. None of us know anything like that. This is just like in 99 when everyone was *****ing about how much MF was going to suck.
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- Peabody

Geez, I don't think you quite read what I had in parentheses. I was just saying that since everyone was talking about it being a LTHB. I wasn't saying that in a derogatory way to the new coaster.

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You can hear the laughter, you can hear the mighty roar. From the brickyard down in Indy to the white Chicago shore. It's a rollin', twistin', turnin' and might we both suggest. You get you fanny ridin' on the Cornball Express!

LTHB or not LTHB, the TH is still not there and the supports look somewhat unsymetrical... so even if it's "just" a TH, it might still be quite terrifying depending on the design of the twists.

My bad, cornballfreak. I thought you were one of the people who can't stop talking about how much it's going to suck before anyone has ridden it! :)

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- Peabody

When you think capacity, think GEMINI!

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Shaun Rajewski
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"a recently crowned person in the 'know'"

Terrifying is definitely the word for this ride. At over 400 feet in the air, looking straight down through a 270 degree twist is going to be death! The backseat is totally going to destroy all. I really don't think many people realize how tall 400 feet really is! I've never been "scared" of a coaster before, but man just thinking about this ride gets my andrenaline pumping!

I also think that the ride is going to have a decent capacity. Probably around 12-1300pph. I'm guessing 3 train operation with a load station, launch brake, safety brakes, and an unload platform. That way those awesome CP crews can dispatch a train right after the previous train has launched, and it can just sit there and wait til the next block clears, while loading the 3rd train.
My guess is that the trains will be quite short too. probably 4-5cars long, 16-20riders per train. If they can dispatch those trains as fast as the Gemini crew, they'll have a people eater!

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Corey
"I make it a rule never to get involved with possessed people. Well, it's more of a guideline than a rule." - Bill Murray

*** This post was edited by rOLLocOASt on 12/8/2002. ***

This ride definitely overpowers the park's skyline. Not that I'm complaining. I don't know what's with the red/white track, either, but I wouldn't be surprised if the white track was eventually painted prior to opening to match the red. Why the white track, though? Possibilities: 1.) To throw people off early on by making them think it's going to be a racing/dueling coaster; 2.) To serve as a speed indicator to folks riding the coaster (i.e., it's going 100 mph when it hits the first white section).

These are just stupid ideas but I don't have anything more pressing to do right now, and I definitely don't have any better ideas as to why they would leave only two sections white.

alternating colours will make you think that you are going a lot faster than you actaully are, and it fits in with the dragster theme that may appear

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Nemesis Inferno - The Pressure is Building!

It's alright, I've already learned my lesson for under estimating roller coasters when Cornball came out.

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You can hear the laughter, you can hear the mighty roar. From the brickyard down in Indy to the white Chicago shore. It's a rollin', twistin', turnin' and might we both suggest. You get you fanny ridin' on the Cornball Express!

This thing is already massive, and there is little track installed. Whatever this behemoth is, it's gonna be one insane ride.

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"Enjoy your record-breaking ride on Millennium Force"

Doesn't anyone think that 400 feet might be just a tad TOO MUCH?

ophthodoc said:

it's going 100 mph when it hits the first white section
Actually, the alternating colors start all the way back at the station and go up the hill. So you'll be going 100 when you hit the last one.
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The alternating colors during the acceleration phase will allow the riders to get a sense of speed and acceleration.
Generally, we don't have a designated organ to measure the speed at which we're travelling... so it's kind of intelligent to heighten the speed factor in the visual sense as this ride does.

I don't know if anyone's mentioned this before, but since some folks still claim there's going to be a surprise besides the twist... what if there were brakes on the top of the top hat, like on Oblivion? People always talk about how they love the brakes on the back spike of 2nd gen impulses. Imagine how awesome it would be to rocket to the top of a 420 foot tower and then come to a halt just over the top, staring straight down the other side. As long as most of the train is over the crest before the brakes engage there'd really be no danger. If the brakes failed, you'd just be headed down a touch faster.

As for people moaning about L-TH-B, If they're going to spend 25 million I'd rather get a 420 foot tall L-TH-B that a 300 foot tall copy of Xcelerator. Even if it were still 420 feet with more track at the end, after that initial rush you'd just be waiting for the brakes anyway. Waste of money.

I had the same thought about the brakes at the top. Unfortunately I think there are two problems with this. One, the brakes have to be installed on a flat piece of track. And two, the train will probably be moving way to fast to comfortably stop in such a short space. Other then that, it’s a sweet idea.

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Bob M.

I know its been discussed a little bit, how much is this ride going to cost? Is it really going to cost 20 -25 million dollars, even considering it will be short?

Then there is also this question for any coaster. What makes a coaster expensive, the height or the length? (or a combination)

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lol with cp ride ops and how ****ing fast this thing will go expect a high pph capacity. Is it a two train operation?

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Even with 3 trains on MF the ops didn't have to check very fast. While we waited in that really long line this past summer it was a long time to wait for the next train to go over the final overbank and onto the brakes.

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Dan ~ Proud Coasternet Staffer (Coasterman Dan)
"The floor is seeking but you will be sailing. 3,2,1, clear! Your outta here" ~Raptor

If this has the same safety issues (restraint checking) as Xcelerator at KBF, expect dismal PPH, like 800 or less. The fact that the lapbar MUST be lowered (and stapled hard) by a ride op really kills capacity. Even if only one person lowers their own bar the entire train is unlocked and rechecked, including seatbelts. CP's new ride will be worth the wait, however. Also the sheer size, speed, and craziness of it will probably intimidate quite a few would be riders. Xcelerator already does, imigane this!

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