New Arrow Corkscrew?
You'll have to excuse me if someone else posted about this...
I came across Lewa Adventure, a new-ish park in China. It looks to have some pretty interesting stuff including a Mack coaster with what appears to be the world's largest vertical loop. It also has this:
It looks to be a new Arrow loop-screw except Arrow hasn't been around in years. It doesn't look to be the relocation of an older ride either. I'm assuming the company that built it (Beijing Shibaolai Amusement Equipment) purchased the rights to the design?
Anyone know anything about this?
Chinese ride manufacturers have been knocking off U.S. and European rides for years. I think they don't care about copyrights.
Who was it told me some company got kicked off the floor at IAAPA one year due to blatant copies?
Probably read it here...
At first I thought it might be a Meisho (similar track spine on the loop), but RCDB says the make is Beijing Shibaolai Amusement Equipment which is credited with 70 different coasters.
Ah, yes, I remember them. I also remember looking at their stuff and picking up as many brochures that I could, mainly for some laughs. The blatant copies were appalling, and it would take a lot of nerve to show up at an international trade show full of respected suppliers like that.
Rob Ascough said:
I'm assuming the company that built it (Beijing Shibaolai Amusement Equipment) purchased the rights to the design?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
I develop Superior Solitaire when not riding coasters.
At least Arrow is long gone. They also have what appears to be an exact duplicate of the Zamperla motocoaster protoype like the one at Darien Lake. This one is also a Golden Horse https://rcdb.com/12643.htm
And they also have a Boomerang that was not manufactured by Vekoma
"The term is 'amusement park.' An old Earth name for a place where people could go to see and do all sorts of fascinating things." -Spock, Stardate 3025
Oh my gosh, rcdb lists ten pages with 224 coasters credited to Golden Horse. I imagine a lot are kiddies, but still.
Guess they don't need no stinkin IAAPA.
RCMAC said:
Chinese ride manufacturers have been knocking off U.S. and European rides for years. I think they don't care about copyrights.
Who was it told me some company got kicked off the floor at IAAPA one year due to blatant copies?
Probably read it here...
Here's the relevant thread https://coasterbuzz.com/Forums/Topic/golden-horse-removed-from-iaapa
"The term is 'amusement park.' An old Earth name for a place where people could go to see and do all sorts of fascinating things." -Spock, Stardate 3025
RCMAC said:
Chinese ________ manufacturers have been knocking off U.S. and European _________ for years. I think they don't care about copyrights.
Fixed that for ya.
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And wasn't there just a very disturbing video posted about one of those Chinese knockoffs?
[edit] Okay, Indian, not Chinese... but still...
RCMAC said:
Yes, that Disk'O that wasn't really, and was so ashamed that it tried to roll off on its own.
You're confusing two countries with that one – the Disk'O accident was an Indian-built ride in India.
I develop Superior Solitaire when not riding coasters.
Golden Horse even copied the old Arrow Arrowbatics model that was at IAAPA in the late 90s/early '00s that no one bought.
Hey, let's ride (random Intamin coaster). What? It's broken down? I totally didn't expect that.
If you think the rollercoasters are bad, their car knockoffs are even more egregious. One of the many reasons not one Chinese car Mfg'er can set foot in the US.
Well yeah, there's that Landwind knockoff of the Land Rover Evoque.
Maybe "purchased" isn't the right word but for anyone to copy anything, they have to get their hands on it, right? Doing that with a crossover is easy but how would one go about measuring something like an Arrow loopscrew? I doubt any park is going to allow someone to do that with something they own? In that case, how would one go about copying a design, and why something that's 40 years old?
Rob Ascough said:
Maybe "purchased" isn't the right word but for anyone to copy anything, they have to get their hands on it, right? Doing that with a crossover is easy but how would one go about measuring something like an Arrow loopscrew? I doubt any park is going to allow someone to do that with something they own? In that case, how would one go about copying a design, and why something that's 40 years old?
They probably didn't have exact measurements and gauged them best on publicly available data and photos. That's why they're knockoffs, and probably why they might be painful compared to the originals. I have no clue why they would want to copy the design of literally one of the first looping coasters to exist when there are so many better, more recent designs to copy.
"The term is 'amusement park.' An old Earth name for a place where people could go to see and do all sorts of fascinating things." -Spock, Stardate 3025
I was party to a conversation recently between a representative of a respected manufacturer and a park, who were discussing if manufacturers had an obligation not to sell to parks who were buying knock offs.
In the example provided in this thread, this park has bought loads of knock offs from Golden Horse - but, they also bought a massive Mack ride that opened earlier this year.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
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