Need Information on B&M

Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:40 PM

Can anyone give me history, facts, financial information and a rides list????

All please contribute.

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DRUMLINE
"Black Colleges have the BEST bands Period".

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:43 PM
They used to work for Intamin. I know that much.

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Rob


"Some people spend an entire LIFETIME wondering if they made a DIFFERENCE. The MARINES don't have that problem." -President Reagan 1985

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:45 PM
You can get a ride list here:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationresult.htm?column=1,10,3,4,5&order=1,2&contact=1

cut and paste the url, it doesn't want to link properly

*** This post was edited by Savaq on 12/10/2002. ***

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 6:04 PM

They produced wooden coaster trains once, and that was for Six Flags Magic Mountain's Psyclone.

Their first coaster as an independent firm was Six Flags Great America's Iron Wolf stand-up.

They are a Swiss (Switzerland) firm :)

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 6:12 PM

and they were not happy with their woodie trains so made no more

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*** This post was edited by laurence on 12/10/2002. ***

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 6:23 PM

All you need to know about B&M is that they are as smooth as glass, are very safe and reliable and are ground-breaking in new technology.

Need I say more?

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:14 PM

I wouldn't say they're ground-breaking in new technology. I'd say they are mind boggleing in further developing existing technology though.

(Just a reminder B&M is my favorite coaster design firm, I'm not bashing them so don't hate)

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- John
I got a B&M T-shirt!

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:44 PM

Two big tecnological deals with B and M IMO.

The Invert Coaster and the station of the floorless coasters. The clamshell floor is extremely innovative.

I have only met one B and M I did not like and thats Iron Wolf. It ranks just slightly Higher then Togo's Viper at SFGADV.

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:01 PM

B&M is nowhere near as innovative as Intamin. Does B&M have a floorless standup? No. Does B&M have a drop ride/coaster/ferris wheel hybrid? No. Does B&M do launches? No (Hulk is Universal's project). Does B&M do gigas? No.

Does B&M make a reliable ride? Yes. Does Intamin? Ha!

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:08 PM

B and M and Intamin are night and day.

Different Strokes for different folks.

Does Intamin have a flyer? No

Does B and M have Bobsled coasters? No

Does Intamin have a floorless coaster? No

Whats the point in that argument?

Intamin is the innovator and has been since they took taht position from Arrow. But nobody perfects the idea better then B and M or has the reliability that B and M have.

I'll be contrary and say I like Arrow's the best.

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:09 PM

Did anyone else think of the inverted concept? No. Does anyone else build painless standups? No (while somewhat debateble, I hear they're a HECK of a lot nicer than TOGO's). Does anyone else build floorless? No.

No, they're not the most innovative coaster firm around. But they've had their share.

(And what was with the floorless stand-up? Even if anyone did, it wouldn't exactly be innovative).

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:27 PM

(SF)Great American said:
"Does anyone else build painless standups?"

Painless Standup? Mantis Kills my head and chest, and Riddlers Revenge was down right killer! That was the most pain I have experienced on a coaster. I think they need to re-fir those trains with the harnesses from X-flight. The packpakish harnesses those are great... No headbang!

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:31 PM

Smoothest standup I ever rode was a Togo.

RIP King Cobra

Iron wolf is the second most painful coasdter I have ever rode. Well excpt that one ride over the wheels on Sonny. Its been all middle seats since then.

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Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:59 AM
How did this go from needing some info about B & M to lets bash every coaster or manufacturer I don't like?

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There is a new twist in the Top-Hat. :)

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Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:30 AM

I would like to see one more inverted coaster constructed by B&M that will climb over 200 feet. A hyper inverted coaster. -A coaster with little or no upside down elements. Just large, steep, and curved drops.

In my opinion, the inverted and floorless coasters are very similar. I think the inverted is more thrilling because you not only have no floor underneath you, but no track as well. A floorless coaster is really no different from a standard coaster such as Bush Gardens' Kumba.

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Wednesday, December 11, 2002 6:43 AM
I would like to see a billion foot coaster that goes a bajillion miles an hour and is a zillion feet long, but that's still totally off topic.

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Be polite and ignore the idiots. - rollergator
You must be this dumb to ride Viper. -SFGAdv.

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Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:05 AM

Well, in my humble experiences, Mantis may be a tad painful here and there, but it's still smooth. Iron Wolf was glass-smooth for many years. However, it has deteriorated rather badly the last few years, making the headbanger we know today. If even a quarter of what I've heard about the TOGO's is true, then they have yet to make anything approaching the (original) smoothness of Iron Wolf and Mantis, even temporarily.

Anyway, they were still the first for inverted and floorless. That was really my main point.

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Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:10 AM

CozterNut said:
"

(SF)Great American said:
"Does anyone else build painless standups?"

Painless Standup? Mantis Kills my head and chest, and Riddlers Revenge was down right killer! That was the most pain I have experienced on a coaster. I think they need to re-fir those trains with the harnesses from X-flight. The packpakish harnesses those are great... No headbang! "


*Liar detector goes off*

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Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:37 PM

The flyer is new technology also.

B&M had the concept before Vekoma. The quality is a lot better also.

*Vertical Drop?

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Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:50 PM
Vertical drop is just a sit down with a wide train and the flyer would never be possible without the invert.

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