Why are we still having this conversation? Like I said before, if you don't like what the closest park offers, visit another park. Easy solution.
Why are you fixated on Michigan's Adventure not being the kind of park that fits what you expect an amusement park to be? Why not write it off, and visit another park instead.
Now that I'm back to living in WV, Camden Park is my closest park. It's nice for what it is, but I really wish that they would build some water slides. They probably never will. I'm not going to complain about it. I am going to take the drive to another park instead when I want water slides.
Wouldn't it be annoying for me to start a new topic all the time about how I wish Camden Park would build some water slides?
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Water slides are at least in the ballpark for Camden, cap-ex wise....
B&Ms aren't coming to MiA anytime soon...
You still have Zoidberg.... You ALL have Zoidberg! (V) (;,,;) (V)
Timber-Rider said:
And, if you look at the rides they have added in the last few years, they have all been water attractions. The only non water ride they have added since 2008 is the gliders, which can have a wait time of a half hour. because that is what people go to the park for.
This is completely false. I live in a southwest Michigan college town, and my friends and I had a discussion about a potential amusement park to go to this summer. The parks we were looking at were Cedar Point, Six Flags Great America, and then MA was sort of an after thought, as it was kind of seen as a back up plan. If none of us could get off work at the same time in May, perhaps we'd go there for a day to enjoy the water park and a few rides on Shivering Timbers when it's a hot Michigan summer day. Among most people here, the general vibe regarding the amusement parks in the area is that Cedar Point and Six Flags Great America are where you go to ride sweet roller coasters, and if you want a cheap, one-day water park and coasters day, you go to Michigan Adventures. You can go there for like $32, and it's business model really isn't meant for "coaster enthusiasts". It's meant to be a somewhat forgettable, but still quite fun, summer day. Six Flags Great America, the second closest park to me, has a one day ticket price about twice as much, but the season pass is rather cheap. That park builds great new stuff all the time, and people go there to ride great roller coasters, and a lot of people get season tickets for there. Michigan Adventures just isn't the same type of park as Cedar Point, and that's ok.
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Vater said:
And then a hotel is the next logical move. Right after Great Adventure builds theirs...
Pfft... Who needs a hotel when you have camp grounds nearby specializing in nightly tighty whitey Twister?
LostKause said:
Why are you fixated on Michigan's Adventure not being the kind of park that fits what you expect an amusement park to be? Why not write it off, and visit another park instead.
Now that I'm back to living in WV, Camden Park is my closest park. It's nice for what it is, but I really wish that they would build some water slides. They probably never will. I'm not going to complain about it. I am going to take the drive to another park instead when I want water slides.
Wouldn't it be annoying for me to start a new topic all the time about how I wish Camden Park would build some water slides?
Every fan, whether of a sports team or an amusement park is entitled to wish for whatever they want. Fans don't have to be rational. Otherwise we'd have to stop wishing for anything new at our favorite parks. Or rooting for Cleveland or the Cubs to win a World Series, which obviously will never happen. ;)
Kause, why not do both? You can wish for waterslides at Camden while driving to another park
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Thats my point. i expect cedar fair to at least give the same attention to michigans adventure as it does to their other parks. If that happened people would be fixated on it, and more people would want to go to the park, instead of just being unhappy with it and going to another park. I certainly think, and hope that cedar fair wouldnt want people to just accept it as it is and go somewhere else. But, it seems to me that they dont care if they do.
As for your comment about going somewhere else. I would rather go somewhere else. I would much rather drive 5 hours to cedar point or great america then drive just 45 minutes to michigans adventure, because there is usually something that is new, or something I have not done before. At Ma, its always the same old same old, unless you are 5 years old and dont now any better. After just a couple hours,it gets boring.
I didn't do it! I swear!!
As long as you don't understand that "attention" is something that you give to your children, and not businesses, you will never, ever understand.
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You might want to think about that phrasing.
NOT paying attention to a business is a good way to close.
I'm sure that CF pays enough attention to repair/replace infrastructure, etc. And if/when they believe a new attraction is needed to maintain profits they will pay enough attention to install one
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Timber-Rider said:
Thats my point. i expect cedar fair to at least give the same attention to michigans adventure as it does to their other parks.
They do. The give all of their parks the attention they need to thrive in their markets. It seems you tend to discount any addition, restaurant, water slide, gift shop, because it's not a roller coaster. MiA could never support the number of coasters that CP or CW or KI can.
If that happened enthusiasts would be fixated on it...
Fixed that for you.
CF lavishes attention on the water park because, for that market, it's the smart thing to do.
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Timber-Rider said:
more people would want to go to the park, instead of just being unhappy with it and going to another park.
I would like to know what the evidence is that people are unhappy and going elsewhere. They don't seem to be expressing their unhappiness using their wallets.
i have a lot of friends who like roller coasters and I know a couple members of the ohio coaster club. They never say they are unhappy with michigans adventure, but that is because they don't go there. the main reason is because they are waiting as I am for a reason to go there. They also agree that prices at the park are getting a bit high considering that it is paying more for the same things year after year.
A lot of my friends go to cedar point every year. They also go to Great America and Kings Island. My friends in the coaster clubs go to the holiday world event, and one goes to parks all over the midwest including Dollywood, knoebels, and hershey park. though they have not been to Michigans Adventure in a few years. two of them live in michigan,
I also know some guys who have started a coaster bear group, and they go to different parks. They went to Michigans Adventure, Cedar point, Kings Island, and Great America. I aksed them what they thought of michigan's adventure and they all said Meh. They said the only thing that was good about it was Shivering Timbers. They had much more to say about Cedar Point and Kings Island. They all loved Kings Island.
So people are going somewhere else. I also have friends who live in grand rapids, and they don't go to MA either, but they do go to cedar point.
So, heres a question. Who here is all excited about going to Michigan's Adventure, or are you going somewhere else.
I didn't do it! I swear!!
I have never said Michigan's adventure needs a new roller coaster. I think they need more rides, and the same amount of care the other cedar fair parks get. Other parks get a new attraction almost every year. MA has not had a decent new attraction since 2008. the only good ride they have added is the gliders.
MA does not need any more shops, stalls, or games. they have enough, and hardly anyone uses them.
I didn't do it! I swear!!
Timber-Rider said:
So, heres a question. Who here is all excited about going to Michigan's Adventure, or are you going somewhere else.
Michigan Adventures is almost entirely a regional park. Michigan as a state has a lot of entertaining things to do opposed to amusement parks. Making a massive coaster park in that part of Michigan just doesn't make much strategic sense. Michigan Adventures will pretty much always be a small park with one good wooden coaster that most people go to for the water park primarily. I'm sorry if that upsets you. Pretty much everything you post on this site is just taking a dump on Michigan Adventues.
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Timber-Rider said:
i have a lot of friends who like roller coasters and I know a couple members of the ohio coaster club. They never say they are unhappy with michigans adventure, but that is because they don't go there.
Okay, but your friends aren't representative of MiA's guests. And if your friends never go to MiA, how can they have an opinion about the park? I've never been to Oaks Park, and so I don't have an opinion on what the park is doing right or wrong.
....the main reason is because they are waiting as I am for a reason to go there. They also agree that prices at the park are getting a bit high considering that it is paying more for the same things year after year.
You and your friends, it seems, don't like waterparks. That's fine. If you're only going to MiA only to ride roller coasters, then sure, you're out of luck. But people who go to MiA only to coasters are not the people the park is catering to.
I also know some guys who have started a coaster bear group, and they go to different parks. I aksed them what they thought of michigan's adventure and they all said Meh.
So guys who like to ride roller coasters don't like a park that pays more attention to waterpark attractions than coasters. This is not a surprise.
So, heres a question. Who here is all excited about going to Michigan's Adventure, or are you going somewhere else.
I love amusement parks. I love Cedar Point, I love Kings Island, I love Beech Bend...
....and I love Michigan's Adventure. It has truly great coasters.
I'm excited about any amusement park I visit.
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Sorry to double post, but combining posts to respond to is difficult on an iPad...
Timber-Rider said:
MA has not had a decent new attraction since 2008. the only good ride they have added is the gliders.MA does not need any more shops, stalls, or games. they have enough, and hardly anyone uses them.
The operative word there is "decent". What's decent to you isn't the same as what's decent to, say, a family of five from Chicago renting a cottage on Lake Michigan near Stony Lake.
And, unless you're spending every day of the season in the park, monitoring the guests utilizing the "shops, stalls or games", I'm afraid I have to take your opinion of "hardly anyone uses them" with a rather large grain of salt.
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