Mitchs best woodie poll

Lord Gonchar said:
S:ROS has been a top ranked coaster since it was built. Turns out the "upgrades" didn't sour that opinion.

I'm actually a little puzzled. I haven't ridden it post-modificiation either, and I tend to agree with Moosh about the so-called enhancements. But most of the people I know who HAVE ridden both before and after seemed to think it really DID detract seriously from the experience. (Apparently these friends didn't vote?)... ;)

Exactly, Gator. Seemed liked everyone was whining and complaining about the 'enhancements' to the ride. Definitely a negative vibe among enthusiasts.

Good to know it's the ride that matters in the end.

I did not have a chance to ride Bizarro before the mods, but I can say that the ride would be better WITHOUT the upgrades, except for the misters. Those you can keep, but the fire and cheezy sets? Not thank you! Besides, the audio system takes up one row on the trains, which DECREASES capacity, never a good thing!

The ride was ok, but I have been on better.

One of the big reasons that I did not like it as much is because of the new lap bars. They are very uncomfy(is that a word?). I had not ridden it before the makeover. That, and the fact that they find the need to staple you everytime and make it even worse.

To me, I find magnum or x2 more exciting than bizzaro.

I went there once this summer and it was closed. Whenever I went to SFNE in past years SROS was always open. So based on my experience, it used to be far more reliable than it is now.

Voting isn't restricted to those who rode a coaster this year, so we don't know how many of the voters rode before or after the enhancements.

Yeah I don't care how many so called "enhancements" were added to this ride, that does not change the great first drop, speed and amazing airtime the ride puts out. If you're that distracted by cardboard theming, you've got some serious ADD.

Unless the new lap bars restrict that "air time".

Hmmm...It's too late now, but it would be interesting to have it listed twice on the ballot, once as S:ROS and once as Bizzaro just to get exactly that answer...

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

The new lap bars are slightly more restrictive, but there is no way you can restrict the amazing airtime on this ride, short of nailing people to their seats.

LOL John. It's the typical enthusiass remark: "I only came up 3/4" off the seat instead of an inch....waaaaaaahhhhhh!"

I tend to prefer a tighter lapbar.

For me it's not about the physical action of leaving the seat as much as it is about the feeling of the forces pushing me up. I'm of the belief that you don't have to leave your seat to appreciate negative G's.

Agreed. And I'm of the belief that one never really comes as far up off the seat as if may feel.

Lord Gonchar said:
I tend to prefer a tighter lapbar.

That's what she said! Oh, wait, that doesn't make any sense.....

Nevermind. ;)

That being said (and for the record I tend to mostly agree) - when you get a ferocious stapling like I and MANY others have experienced on Toro, the extreme negative g's combine to create a painful experience with the lapbars down TOO low. There are no other wooden coasters I can think of offhand where that becomes the problem that it can be on Toro....

It's too late now, but it would be interesting to have it listed twice on the ballot, once as S:ROS and once as Bizzaro just to get exactly that answer...

Doesn't Mitch also post the results for current-year riders?

Yes.

A more accurate response would be "sometimes." For the 2007 steel poll, there is no link for the then current year (2007) results.

It's right here on his main page, near the bottom. Link to 2007 steel results. Link to 2008 steel results.

Yes, and if you scroll to the bottom of the page for the 2007 steel results, you will not find a hyperlink for "Results Based Only on Voters who Rode each Coaster in 2007". This is the sub-poll result that Brian was asking about.