Midwest Coaster Central posts pics of 2003 Cedar Point construction

Posted Monday, October 14, 2002 4:47 AM | Contributed by ShiveringTim

The layout of Cedar Point's 2003 mystery machine becomes a little clearer after checking out what was done below the tree line. Supports have been added that seem to indicate a launch, tophat, brake sequence.

Link: Midwest Coaster Central

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Monday, October 14, 2002 5:48 AM
i don't know...there's an awful lot of twisting track in the parking lot for just a L-TH-B ride...we'll have to wait and see, I guess.
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Monday, October 14, 2002 6:03 AM

That twisting track would be for the TH. Strange, it's rather twisted for such a tall element - it would twist slightly/slowly. I just got a wild thought, if the launch is on the right, what if it twisted 450 degrees to the left - same direction as on Xcelerator, or 270 degrees to the right? Same would go for the other side. A double rolling Top Hat! I'm just speculating.

Anyway, oh... my... god... those are two gargantuan cranes! Not to mention the length of the ground track, it'll absolutely be the tallest, fastest coaster in the world! Strange, why do I feel like a proud papa?

IMO, I'm totally happy with the layout. There's NO point in copying Xcelerator's or similar, that's what MF is for. They coulda spliced into MF, not. Makes sense, after what CP spent on WT.

CP, here I come next year! (Hopefully, gotta earn some cash first.)

Btw, VM has new pics as well; www.virtualmidway.com

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Monday, October 14, 2002 6:08 AM
To me it looks like it will do a top hat and not much more. I don't know if the top hat will be 400ft but if theres alot of track left it should be huge.
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Monday, October 14, 2002 6:35 AM

I'm so excited right now and it's only October!!!!!!!!!! MY GOD! All I can say is CP will never fail to amaze me........now, get a good woodie in the collection!

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Monday, October 14, 2002 7:35 AM
If you don't think Blue Streak is a good woodie, then you don't have any sense of a good woodie. A classic out and back with plenty of airtime. It would just be nice if the trains were as nice. Now, with this said, it doesn't mean that I would mind a wooden twister being built...
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Monday, October 14, 2002 7:58 AM

This thing looks sweet. I swear when I saw it it looked like the supports were about 3 times heavier than those for MF.

Maniac, while Blue Streak is a good ride, one of the classics at CP, you're crazy if you think it's a 'good woodie.' The day that CP adds even a decent woodie is the day they become my favorite park, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

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Monday, October 14, 2002 8:01 AM
I think 'medusafanatic' has a point
- launch - tophat - stop - exit -
hope I am proved wrong though
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Monday, October 14, 2002 8:09 AM

Take a look at image 1010. I count 12 more large yellow upright supports on the ground around the tower base. This would seem to indicate that the tower itself is only 1/2 done. In addition to the 4 more tower sections we'll still have the unsupported track over the top hat. Boy this is going to huge.

Curtis

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Monday, October 14, 2002 8:52 AM

If you don't think Blue Streak is a good woodie, then you don't have any sense of a good woodie. A classic out and back with plenty of airtime. It would just be

It USED to be a good woodie. CP totally castrated that ride. The capacity is also way down with the new 'system'. It's a shame. I was lucky enough to work on the ride the last 2 years it was 'original'. I've been on it once since. CP really does need a good woodie. They had 2 until 1993. Now they have 0.
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Monday, October 14, 2002 9:20 AM

Dearest Millenium Force Maniac: Let's get something straight, when did I say any woodie was bad? Did you ASS-U-ME that I said that a woodie was bad? The last time CP built a wooden coaster, I was graduating college and you were climbing out of kindegarten: Thus, this would leave me to believe that they are in dire need of a wooden coaster, that's why I said it.

Basically, this is why in 2 years, I have decided not to say much on the forums, because people will always, always find a way to turn and twist a Jalopeno Pepper up your shaft. Yes, you're right, if it's too hot in the kitchen for me, then I'll leave, but of course the A$$uming would continue and our favorite hobby forum destroyed, but hell, it's just me.

Get a clue, look at the info before commenting.....

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Monday, October 14, 2002 10:32 AM
Woody, it's not what you said, it's what you implied.

When you say that "when CP builds a good woody, then they'll be a great park" you imply that they don't have a good woodie. That's easy enough to see. Kinda surprised you didn't see that in your own comments, and the flaming response you gave- well, I'll just leave that untouched.

And I would have to agree with MF Maniac- Blue Steak is a great woodie! Easily in my top 3 coasters at the point. Just a pure fun, airtime machine. Loading procedures could use some work, sure. But that doesn't affect the quality of the ride in the least.

And truthfully, I wouldn't be surprised to see it just be the top hat, turnaround, brakes. After all, that's pretty much what Xcellerator is (though it's great at that), and when you consider their last install was just a larger version of a ride already in another park, this would just be following that pattern.

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Monday, October 14, 2002 12:59 PM

If you don't think Blue Streak is a good woodie, then you don't have any sense of a good woodie.

And of course, there are those who would say that if you do think that Blue Streak is a good woodie, you don't have any sense of a good woodie. ;)

Of course, that has nothing to do with the topic, but oh well.

I think no matter what the course, no matter what the layout, the new ride will kick my posterior. Would I like it to be hella-long to burn off some of that speed instead of wasting it in a long brake run? Sure. After that launch, though, I don't think you'll hear me complaining about anything.

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"When I was growing up, we were taught something called manners. You'd understand that if you weren't such an idiot." - Jack Handey

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Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
I have news for all you coaster fans like me. I went to Cedar Point Saturday and Sunday October 12 and 13, 2002. I asked the wicked twister operator what the new coaster was going to be. He told me it would be 426ft. tall and blast out of the station from 0 to about 136 miles per hour in a few seconds. I pray to god that this is true.

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Monday, October 14, 2002 1:25 PM
Don't worry it probably isn't.

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87 different coasters for this year and counting... 149 total!

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Monday, October 14, 2002 2:19 PM

Wicked Twister was a nice addition to Cedar Point. It helped to bring a dying area of the park back to life, and it also added a launch/shuttle coaster to Cedar Point which has really rounded out their coaster collection.

The thing is, if this new coaster is going to be as short as people are saying it will be, I would rather that Cedar Point didn't build Wicked Twister, and use that money on the new ride. 120 MPH and 400 feet will be great, but a 10 second ride time doesn't cut it. Heck, there are kiddie coasters that are longer than that.

On the other hand, Cedar Point could have built Wicked Twister, and then using the money for this new coaster, build a medium-sized floorless/flying/vertical/etc. Honestly, I would rather have a medium-height, long, intense coaster with some cool new elements than a high, extremely short, intense coaster, with one element. Some enthusiasts complained about Millennium Force being too short, having a boring layout, and not enough airtime. If some of us can complain about MF, what are we going to say about this new ride?

I know, the enthusiasts make up a small part of the park guests, and parks should be built for the General Public, but I think that they will have a couple of comlaints too. A short ride is a short ride, and anyone can see that.

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Monday, October 14, 2002 2:58 PM
Its very hard for people to judge these Intamin Rocket coasters without riding one. Xcelerator has to be one of the most intense launched rides if not the most I have ever ridden. That tophat looking element(which I have heard Intamin refer to as the "twisting up and over") is the best inversion on a launched coaster that exists today.

Get out to Knott's and ride XC and I GUARANTEE YOU that you will be so happy that Cedar Point is getting a similar coaster that it's short length and ride time will mean absolutely nothing... You think WT was intense, wait till you ride this baby!

No matter what parks build, there will be some people that will complain due to their lack of ambition\want to ride certain attractions. That goes without saying and no matter what the parks do, people will complain. So, they try their best to suit the majority of their customers and I think Cedar Point has done an outstanding job doing just that.

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TR2k3....GET READY! *** This post was edited by Chris Godsey on 10/14/2002. ***

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Monday, October 14, 2002 3:23 PM
Guys, I may be puttin to much into it, but if you look at pic 15 I believe it is on that site, back in the woods there is another support structure that really resembles the shape of Xcel's tophat support. Maybe I'm just lookin at it wrong, but could there be a 2nd tophat on it? Any thoughts or insight would be appreciated.

On second thought, is that just MF? *** This post was edited by Chris the Coaster Freak on 10/14/2002. ***

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Monday, October 14, 2002 3:28 PM
I believe that belongs to MF, lol. Don't take it hard, nice observation by the way. :)
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Monday, October 14, 2002 4:03 PM
I don't know though Chris. There is no doubt in my mind that Xcelerator is a good ride and that this new ride will be AMAZING. But there is this little voice in the back of my mind telling me that the ride length will leave more to be desired. You can do A LOT with the kind of speed this coaster is going to generate. One thing I'm wondering is though, if this thing is going to be so short, what's with the alternating color scheme?

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