MF Front Seat Question

Thursday, August 8, 2002 1:08 PM

A few weeks ago I went on my biyearly trip to CP. I went on MF 8 times all together and for my last ride I wanted to ride in the front seat at night. After waiting an hour and 1/2 we got up to the loading platform. We sprinted for the front seat but I noticed that they closed it off. Not in the mood to ride in the middle or back my cousin and I snuck under it hoping they wouldn't notice. A ride op saw and made me go to a middle row. We tried going to the back but they said we had to fill the empty row. The queue was still completely full so why would they do this? I started yelling at the ride ops askin them why (they could tell I was pissed) and that it wasn't fair. We waited an hour and 1/2 to ride this and that its not fair that "they" got to wait for the front but we didn't. I also yelled that Wicked Twister was closed after driving 10 hours (closed both days) so its the least you could do. They threatened to kick us off if we didn't so we just sat in the middle. Although I was really angry I was going to let them ruin my "record breaking ride on the millennium force" so I just got strapped in and forgot about the whole thing. I started screamin MF MF MF! lol when we were "launched out" and it was one of the best rides of my life. So to sum it up what was this all about with closing off the front seat?

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 1:12 PM
Probably because the park was closed, and they didnt want to have to send empty trains up with people only in the front row.
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Thursday, August 8, 2002 1:15 PM

So does that mean that they are going to send the front seat empty? It would be different if we were the last ones in line.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 1:15 PM

you know, i have a similar story.

my first trip to CP was a 2day trip(26th and 27th of june). we drove 12hrs to get there. i was fortunate enough to get my 4 WT laps in though :-)

anyway, on my first ride on MF, me and my friend rode in front. the 2nd time we rode it in the back. later that night, we did rock-paper-scissors to decide if we would ride back or front that night, and the other row the next night. my friend won the 2 out of 3, and we rode back.

the next day, we didnt ride it until later on at night(last ride of the day), and we waited 1hr 15mins. we got up to the turn thing, right before you get in line for the specific rows. we walked through, and halfway towards the front row, 2 ride ops pushed a gate right in front of the front row entrance. they pointed us to the 2nd row, but me and my friend just took the back instead.

as much as a great ride it was, i wanted both a front row at night, and a back row at night. funny thing was, it wouldnt have happened if i won instead of my friend ;-) either way...good memories.

but i want to know too....why do they close that off? its not fair to others who want to wait for the front.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 1:23 PM

Ya know...seat 1:2 is just as good and the people sitting in front of you will get all the bugs!

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Matthew "mamoosh" Sullivan
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Thursday, August 8, 2002 1:38 PM

On S:ROS at SFA, there was no one telling people not to wait for the front row. At around 9:00 (closing), the ride ops announced the next ride would be the last of the day. Most rows were empty, but the remaining 6 people in the front were forced to move into another row after waiting a half hour for it.

*** This post was edited by jpcoaster on 8/8/2002. ***

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 1:43 PM
I ran into a similar scenarion on Magnum a few years ago. I had wanted to ride the front as the park was closing, and we got in line for the front, but the ops were instructed to send out only full trains, so myself, my friend, as well as some other people waiting for the fron had to find seats elsewhere in the train. Sounds to me like you expected CP to compensate you for WT closing.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 2:01 PM
No I knew they wouldn't but I just needed a reason to yell at them. I was really pissed.
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Thursday, August 8, 2002 2:02 PM
Yeah, what time was it?

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 2:03 PM
Cedar Point is very big on gathering statistics and I'm sure this is another case in point of that. A full front-seat queue can mean upwards of an hour wait...and that's after you have already waited all that time just to get into the station. The ride ops most likely know at what point the main line's end needs to be at before they need to close the front seat line. That way, they are neither sending out trains with empty front rows or trains with just the front row filled.

Think of it this way...at least they keep the main line open until the advertised closing time for the park. Not all places still do that.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 2:31 PM
I was going to say the same thing James. That is one of the things that I love about CP - that they keep the lines open until the advertised closing time (sometimes even a few minutes past to avoid controversy). I was at SFNE one time in 2000 and they closed the Superman line an hour and a half before park closing. The MF crew just closes the front seat queue so that they don't have a bunch of people standing in there thinking they're going to ride the front only to have to move them to other rows at the end making them angry. Last year at Magnum, we usually announced the last three trains. "If there are more than 5 people, in front of you, please move to another row so you can ride." On our ride it was usually 3 or 4 people that had to move. At MF, the situation could be out of control if you tell 30 people they have to move to another row. They are not going to send 15 trains with two people each at the end of the night. The MF ops have a very long day as it is, coming in for resort ERT starting at 9AM. This means that some ops are probably at the ride by 8 with the rest coming in at 8:25. Then they always have a line at closing, meaning they get out well after midnight (probably 1 on Saturday). So if you have an O-C, that is a darn long day! Not to mention, night maintenance has to begin and everything like that.

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-Matt
2001 Magnum Crew

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 5:23 PM

See, instead of trying to break rules, you could grown some brains and done one of the following:

Go on the front row on an earlier ride.

OR

Just ask the ride op politely.

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-Kyle Brylczyk
KoRn - Untouchables, June 11th, 2002

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 5:38 PM
Does anyone else know that idiot ride-op on MF named Adam. He has a funny Russian voice or something. Anyways, he made me move from the back row to the middle because I was a single rider. What is his problem? He stated to yell at me because I didn't move fast enough. He also forced me to sit on the far side of the car in case any other single riders came. This was during ERT and there was no line. Man, I am so pissed at him still.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 6:37 PM

CC1 I know that guy! He was so rude. There were these two teenage girls walking on with a backpack and he said "you can't ride with that backpack!! And the girls were like "Why? Its not that big or anything?" "Well if you could read this tiny sign (sarcasm) then you'd know why and maybe your intelligence level would increase!" I rode at 10:30 (1/2 B4 closing and the queue WAS still full)

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 6:41 PM

Coaster131 said:

Just ask the ride op politely.

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-Kyle Brylczyk
KoRn - Untouchables, June 11th, 2002



I did at first. I asked "do you mind if we sit in the front? We'd really appreciate it after driving 10 hours. This is our last ride of our vacation." and they said know so I got angry.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 9:45 PM

Do you/would you disobey what your team leaders or managemers tell you to do where you work? They are just doing their jobs. It's probably ride policy to shut down the front line queue to make sure that there are no empty trains at the end of the night. It could be even worse, they could have to move someone waiting for the front to somewhere else in the last train of the night after they have waited all that extra time.

They shut down the front of the line queue so that towards the end of the night, they re-adopt the first come, first serve policy on all seats of 2000.

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Friday, August 9, 2002 12:11 AM
Can they make you sit somewhere else I think that is a stupid rule

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Friday, August 9, 2002 12:19 AM
I think we should all complain about Adam. Down with Adam, up with the GOOD, NICE ride-ops!

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~I want a girl with a short skirt and a long jacket

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Friday, August 9, 2002 3:41 AM

If you really feel shafted, go file a guest complaint. That will probably get you alot further than whining about it here. So far, the only thing in this thread that is out of the norm is the guy being sarcastic about the backback. But then again, the people were stupid to ask, "Why, it's not that big or anything?" They're usually real good about catching that stuff at entrance, but sometimes people hide things or once in a while something gets by.

Fact is, CP's front seat queue policy on MF is more than fair. I am glad they do it this way rather than make people stand in there, thinking they're going to ride front, only to tell them to move at the end. Be happy that you still got to ride at all. Some parks close the queues so that by the time park closing time rolls around, the queue is empty. The MF ride ops stay more than an hour past the time that park closes. Now you're asking them to stay until the wee hours of the morning, sending up trains of two people in the front? Get real! :)

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-Matt
2001 Magnum Crew

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Friday, August 9, 2002 8:54 AM

CoasterCrazyOne said:
Does anyone else know that idiot ride-op on MF named Adam. He has a funny Russian voice or something. Anyways, he made me move from the back row to the middle because I was a single rider.

Isn't that pretty much a standard policy at CP and SF? I've seen several coasters where the last car can not be ridden by a single rider.

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