Men with Nazi and DeSantis flags assemble outside of Walt Disney World

#notallpriests? In all seriousness neither GoBucks or I suggested that all priests were pedophiles.

Doesn’t matter how many people at this showing. Every single Republican voter aligns their vote with this human garbage. They are empowered by Republicans. Republicans align with Nazis.

I don’t think I overreacted. I simply said it was a little offensive. I didn’t get nasty, get on a soapbox or anything overly dramatic for that matter.

I’ll call out the generalization of Republicans too. Not all Republicans align themselves with Trump. Many don’t. If they did he would have walked away with his re-elect.

I don’t think I overreacted. I simply said it was a little offensive. I didn’t get nasty, get on a soapbox or anything overly dramatic for that matter.

No one said you did.

wahoo skipper:

I didn’t get nasty, get on a soapbox or anything overly dramatic for that matter.

I was reacting to Jeff saying "It's not appropriate to suggest that all leaders of the faith are pedophiles." I also wouldn't suggest all leaders of the Presbyterian faith are pedos either even though the only person I remember from my days with the church is the basketball coach that let his finger drift into butt cracks when he pat the players asses.

A long-time member of the community found the generalization offensive. You could just apologize to him and move on.

The_Orient_of_Express:

I highly doubt DeSantis supports anything these hate idiots do.

What have you seen from him that inspires you to give him the benefit of the doubt?

wahoo skipper:

I’ll call out the generalization of Republicans too. Not all Republicans align themselves with Trump. Many don’t. If they did he would have walked away with his re-elect.

Trump was supported by 94% of Republicans in 2020, up from 92% in 2016, so I think it's pretty damn safe to generalize Republicans as supporting Trump, and therefore supporting the direction of the party. Even if you include the less faithful "leaners" group Trump was supported by 92%.

But how many Republicans either registered NPA or didn't vote in 2020 because they couldn't stomach it? I know a lot of them.

I was a little over-sensitive yesterday. Apologies. I ran into my former priest (my priest during the height of the scandal) this past weekend. He ended up retiring early because of the emotional toll the scandal took on him. He literally got to the point where parishioners would blame him for what happened or people would point him out and smirk when he was in public. He was a good man who should not have born the weight of the church's sins...and his pain still hurts me.

I know the joke wasn't intended to indict all priests.

Candidates don't run in vacuums; they run against candidates from opposing parties. Often times votes are against the other candidate more than in favor of the voted for candidate. Historically, the anti-the-other-candidate vote was relatively small. But in the last couple of elections it has increased substantially.

I know a lot of people who voted for Trump (many of them are in my own family). None of them are happy with the direction the party is headed. However, they are less happy about the direction the other team is headed. And none of them want Trump to run again in 2024. But pretty much all of them will vote for him if he is the nominee because they like Biden even less. Some may vote for a third party candidate or stay home. But from what I have seen, that won't be the majority of them.

From polls I have seen, the majority of people don't want Biden or Trump to run in 2024. But expect that if both are nominated, the dems will support Biden in huge numbers and the repubs will support Trump. Don't think it allows much in the way of conclusions to be drawn about supporting anything in specifics.

My favorite thing to ask a Trumpy is, "What rights have you lost since Biden took office?" They have no answers of course, but I'm happy to point out that in most places it's harder to vote, you have less access to healthcare (as a woman especially), books are being banned and teachers are no longer trusted to teach. They'll inevitably say "but the economy," and if you think presidents really pull those levers, GDP is up 20%, the major stock indices are up 15 to 40%, unemployment is around 3.6% instead of 6.8%. Inflation is still high, over 4%, but with the wage growth and low unemployment, that's not unexpected.

So when they say Biden is "ruining the country," I think they really mean that they don't like the cultural shift that is demanding equality. If anything, Trump only reinforced that movement, and continues to do so.

GoBucks89:

None of them are happy with the direction the party is headed. However, they are less happy about the direction the other team is headed.

It's astonishing to consider the level of willful disconnect from reality necessary to achieve this sort of "both sides" false equivalence. Trump is facing multiple credible indictments, one of which is the result of stealing and disseminating classified US national intelligence, another of which is the result of inciting a deadly attack on the US government with the stated goal of overturning an election. And yet they see Biden, a moderate, "across-the-aisle" Democrat, as the worse of the two?

Who would have thought Idiocracy was an overly optimistic satire? We are doomed.

This just showed up in my FB memories. Must be that time of year or something.

Jeff:

equality

I'm often reminded of this old saw: When someone is accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

I was watching the Smartless On The Road documentary last night on Max. Their guest was Letterman. They asked him if he thought they would have written the show the same way today, in light of changing cultural expectations. He said:

"Are we too woke? Are we cancelling too quickly? Are we overcorrecting? And I feel like let's overcorrect and see what happens. There are many many things that a person has to be smart and sensitive about that heretofore perhaps we were not."

That's from one of the funniest guys I ever watched on TV.

I think folks have a tendency to be troubled at how things might bother others and immediately skip considering whether or not the thing may in fact actually bother someone, and instead mock that person. And when it comes to issues of identity, whether it be over religion, race, sexuality, gender, even occupation, maybe it'd be easier if we could find other things to laugh about.

This post deserves a bigger stage.

Making jokes at the expense of the “Catholic Church” is not exactly punching down.

I do sometimes say that the only dimension along which I do not have maximal privilege is that I was raised Catholic, not Protestant. It's not much, but it's the best I've got.

(I never understood that this was A Thing until I had an officemate in grad school from New England---one of those people who can trace family lineage to the Mayflower---who said, in all seriousness, that Catholics were not Christian.)

Jeff:

My favorite thing to ask a Trumpy is, "What rights have you lost since Biden took office?"

Freedoms.

They lost their Freedoms.

I first heard the concept that catholics are not christian from someone on the East Coast. Was more of an arrogance thing rather than privilege but that often gets mixed up there. Also heard it from a couple people in the south.

Wonder if that same view of privilege is given now with New England states as some of the least religious states in the country.

https://worldpopulationrevi...ous-states