Maverick heartline roll

Saturday, June 9, 2007 11:06 PM
^Maybe the trains aren't as resilient as the riders? ;)
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Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:52 AM
The Gs a heartline roll pulls would be mostly lateral, right?
I don't think there should be any coaster on the planet pulling 6 lateral Gs.
About the speed of the twist - if you look at how some flatrides toss around their riders these days, I wasn't so surprised to see a twist like this in a coaster.

I still think it was mostly the stress on the trains, and possibly the element just didn't feel as great as they had expected - it was definitely quite an experimental location for a heartline roll.

*** Edited 6/10/2007 5:53:17 AM UTC by superman***

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 2:09 AM
Where are you guys pulling these facts from?

Years from now people will talk about the heartline roll being removed, and the only thing that will be said will the the crap that is being said here.

The only thing I know was what was in CP's press release.

You can come to your own conclusions, but I don't think there's any doubt the whip you'd get in that element didn't look fun.

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 2:36 AM
I don't see this element ever being added back in. If the riders like it the way it is, then why mess with a good thing? I mean, how would you market it? "New improved Maverick for 2008, now with heartline roll!" ?
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Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:04 AM
I wonder if Son of Beast will be marketed as "New and Improved!" ;)
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Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:26 AM

Mamoosh said:
Who were the four men in SFNE jackets? Me, Bassistist, Gator, and Flare! We bought them a week earlier on another rainy June day ;)

What's funnier, the ride-op's writing to screamscape about you guys, or the ride-op thinking gator looked like an "executive-type." ;)

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:41 AM
*whine whine whine*

The ride is great.

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:47 PM
That YouTube video no-worky. Anyone know of another place to see it?

I still can't understand how they could have messed up the design so much that that section would need to be eliminated.

Still, the ride is very fun! Did bash my neck pretty hard on that OTSR a couple times, but that's not too surprising. For the most part, it's smooth.

I also didn't get the space-age effects in the tunnel... Not very "Old West." Disaster Transport is very jealous of Maverick's effects.

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:08 PM
If you guys really want a heartline roll, then ride Raptor! The "zero-g roll" on that is technically the same thing, isn't it?

Otherwise, WHO CARES and enjoy what we have!

My apologies...I guess I would rather read more about how much fun people are having then read the nit picking and complaining about the smallest details.

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:13 PM

My apologies...I guess I would rather read more about how much fun people are having then read the nit picking and complaining about the smallest details.

Then you're at the wrong site. ;)

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:24 PM
^ LOL! I was sort of thinking the same thing. ;-)


*** Edited 6/10/2007 8:28:10 PM UTC by coasterlover325***

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:29 PM
Don't get me wrong, I mean that in a positive way.

We all know we enjoy coasters/parks - otherwise we wouldn't be here. I'm not sure everyone needs to say it over and over again.

There's a place an time for everything, I suppose.

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:38 PM
^ I know you meant it in a positive way, I did too.
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Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:52 PM
...so, how could we know why the heartline actually was removed in the end?
Who could enlighten us?

There should be some CP insiders around here............ :P
:)

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:21 PM
The ride is Awesome even without the Heartline!

The ride is so much better if you ride it holding on to the restraints next to your shoulders it limits the head banging a lot.

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:40 PM

superman said:
...so, how could we know why the heartline actually was removed in the end?
Who could enlighten us?

We will never get a real official answer other than the one they gave us. If it pulled 47 Gs during testing in that thing and gave the test dummy hepititis C do you think they would tell us that, or say that it caused too much wear on the trains? :)

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:42 PM
If you really want to know the truth, I'll tell you......

It was a cold, dark night. The date was November 23, 2005. The nightshift at Intamin that evening was 5 weak, unsuspecting gentlemen, and before they knew it, disaster struck! 5 large, bulky gentlemen from Six Flags Magic Mountain Management swept into the offices and grabbed the Intamin workers. They tied them up, threw them in a room, and farted in their faces...........the invaded the company!

2 hours later, Cedar Points GM rushed through the doors, screaming, "I need a coaster, I need a coaster!" And the 5 invadors took over. They told the general manager that they would build him a 105 foot family roller coaster, with a launch, a steep drop, and, 3 inversions. But what they didn't tell him, is that one of the inversions was................DEADLY!

The GM left, very happy. But all the evil do-ers just laughed and cackled, knowing that once people began to ride the coaster, the highly-over-intense heartline roll would snap thier necks over the evil, dreadful, SHOULDER RESTRAINTS! (Yes, you may scream.)

Well, after construction was finished and everything was tested, the SFMM Managers were very happy, but what they didn't know, is that one of the Intamin workers had gotten free! And he quickly made it to the park and told CP's GM the whole story. So he ran over to the coaster and rapped yellow "caution tape all around because he didn't want anyone to ride. Then he went over to the 5 bulky men, kicked them in the nuts, and farted in their faces....they cried and ran back to California.

But now what? Oh yeah, the snapping necks, what could he do about it? The GM decided to postpone the opening and replace the horrid heartline roll with an element that wouldn't kill the riders. Thus, the S-curve!

So there you have it, the honest truth of how Cedar Point's General Manager saved thousands of lives. That is the true story. ;)

No I'm not kidding! It's true! Just go back in time and watch. It's true, you'll see......you'll all see........ Well its just as true as all the others posts around here...

Yeah I know, I should write a movie! :)

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:49 PM
I think while Intamin was designing the heartline roll they might of gotten Ron Toomer Fever or the computer might have had the Arrow Virus, having the problem of miscalculations.

At least the ride isnt ruined but, it might not be living up to its full potential.

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:05 PM
I just don't understand how anyone can think that a single, 1 second element can effect the entire ride. Maverick is a GREAT ride! That's one thing I can't stand about fellow coaster enthusists, can't be happy about anything, just need to find a reason to bitch and complain.
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Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:15 PM

Peabody said:
We will never get a real official answer other than the one they gave us. If it pulled 47 Gs during testing in that thing and gave the test dummy hepititis C do you think they would tell us that, or say that it caused too much wear on the trains?

Or the alternate take:

If the coaster handled the element just fine rider-wise, but put more stress than expected on the trains, do you think they'd tell us, "We don't want to drop the money it'll take to keep the ride in proper running condition" or shoot off a generic, "rider comfort, train stress" excuse? :)

And just to note as well - rider comfort doesn't mean 6 or 7G's, it may have been a little bangy, but I'd bet my house, car and kids that it never pulled those kinds of forces.

This one has the potential to get as big as the "Kinzel said he's going out with a bang" fantasy. ;)

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