Markey's response to industry report

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:38 PM

(Link courtesy of bigkirby)

Markey's Response (you need Acrobat Reader)

I actually thought Malarkey was happy with the report, until I got to the bottom of the first page, then it became more useless political gobbledeegook. Now that the brain injury question has been answered, he's moved on to other accidents. And coasters have more deaths per traveled mile than airplanes? What kind of obscure statistic is that - oh wait, that's what happens when politicians are losing their battle...

Jim

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:44 PM
I hate stupid people.
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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:52 PM
is it really illegal to shoot people?

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:53 PM

Just when i thought everyone forgot about Ed Markey. I hate that guy, hes doesnt have his facts straight.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:53 PM
Well, in reality, the statistic is probably accurate, but one thing politicians love to do is to lie with statistics. Most people will realize that is totally nonsensical when they in turn realize that most roller coasters have a track of less than a mile, while airplanes have routes of hundreds or thousands of miles. But oh well, stupid people will be stupid people.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:55 PM

Quote: Most parents are completely unaware that a bicycle is regulated at the federal level by the consumer Product Safety Commision


Ok now after reading that comment i am forced to go back to the other saying he stated:


Quote: Broken Limbs, cuts, sprains or death are not experiences that anyone expects when they go to the park for entertainment.

Last time i checked you get cuts sprains and possibly broken limbs on Bikes. Problem there?

Quote: ..... But a roller coaster carries their child at speeds they would never drive is completely exempt form of federal saferty regulation.


I don't know where you live Ed, but last time i was going down the road the speed limit sign said 60. Don't get me wrong, but, nearly most major coasters go near this speed. Another Problem?

Know what i have to say about this article, it's bull crap.

*** This post was edited by sfft_freak on 1/21/2003. ***

*** This post was edited by sfft_freak on 1/21/2003. ***

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:59 PM

Markey like this Six Flags Funded study are useless, and tainted. Now when the 2nd report comes out in Feb. Now that'll be some useful information!!!

Both Markey and Six Flags are wasting their time... Plain and simple... Both blind to the facts!

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:03 PM

I don't understand how he feels his regulation will help. States already regulate the rides (and being at a local level, most likely better than if it were done at the Federal level) and the media picks up on any accident that occurs. He is making the industry out to be a group of bloodthirsty, profit hugging corporate monsters. Why does he assume people in the industry don't care? 5.8 brain injuries per year is very very low.

We have neurosurgeons, engineers, and astronauts stating that the rides are safe and he still denies it. What more proof does this man want?

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:09 PM

Jason: Have you read the new studies? If not, I suggest you do before you start calling them "tainted."

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:10 PM

jimmybob said:

And coasters have more deaths per traveled mile than airplanes? Jim



Is this country being run by gerbils or what. That, is an unfair comparison. Airplanes travels 8 times faster than the average coaster, therefore they cover much more ground. Why doesn't he campaign for something of just cause, like how we are planning for war when there is no need for one...ooooh...maybe I went too far.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:35 PM

I'm in the process of reading the new studies and have found relatively little to fault so far.

Remember that the Brain Injury Association Of America is closely allied with another industry, the lawyers. They have not contracted with anyone who has any independence to produce a report. They are producing it themselves. That kind of the same as if SF had done the report all by themselves. I hate to prejudge, but I am preskeptical.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:39 PM

Let's face it ,we all know that Markey absolutely hates the amusement industry & will try anything he can think of to bring it down or regulete it more than it currently is.

No matter how many reports are made saying that coasters are safe he's just not convinced of the facts that are right in front of him & just refuses to let it go,he can't stand it that he's wrong & someone else is right when it comes to this issue.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:42 PM
Democracy at work

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:44 PM

Antuan said:
Why doesn't he campaign for something of just cause, like how we are planning for war when there is no need for one...ooooh...maybe I went too far.

Aren't we supposed to learn something from the past?

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:52 PM

Antuan said:
Why doesn't he campaign for something of just cause, like how we are planning for war when there is no need for one...ooooh...maybe I went too far.


You didn't go too far. I'm sure there are are others here that feel exactly the same way but then again, that's another whole forum debate. (Believe it or not, I was going to reply almost the exact same thing!)

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:57 PM
Oh, don't worry. The point is, whether you're for or against action in Iraq, there are FAR more important things for our politicians to be worrying about, yet jokers like Markey continue their senseless crusades, wasting their constituents' time and taxpayers' money...

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:59 PM

Malarkey must have had a sad, sad childhood. Probably hit his head one too many times falling off of his bicycle or something. :)

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:55 PM
Greg....they're only "wasting" our time and money if they fail to get any political mileage out of their *quixotic rampages*, ROFL....it's not like they're wasting their OWN money or anything...;)
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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:01 PM

Jeff said:

Jason: Have you read the new studies? If not, I suggest you do before you start calling them "tainted."

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Jeff--

I was a part of the study! Some T's weren't crossed,and some periods were missing!

The 2nd study will expose this!

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:03 PM
Honestly, was anybody surprised by the outcome of the study? I heard a comment today by one of the researchers in which he commented that the study had to be independent. Fine. But you know that if the results had been any different, Six Flags would not have made any public announcements when releasing the report. And naturally, Ed Markey doesn't care, and will claim that the study is tainted because Six Flags paid for it. And of course Barry Novack is gonna show up on Fox TV and talk about how many clients he has who have suffered brain trauma on amusement rides. Nothing changes, and everything is exactly as expected.

Has anybody else ever bothered to read at least the earlier versions of Markey's bill? It isn't about amusement ride safety; it's about scaring up another million dollars or so for the CPSC...

(edit)...And we are supposed to appreciate the comments of a person who (a) doesn't understand that Acrobat files are fine for printable releases but annoying for Web content, and (b) whose staff can't even create an Acrobat file properly (why is there a Page 3?)...

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

*** This post was edited by RideMan on 1/21/2003. ***

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