Magic Mountain to get another coaster in 2010

Tuesday, December 9, 2008 7:09 AM

Never been to MM or ANY other SF park. i'm gonna reserve judgement for the time I have a chance to visit one.


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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:24 AM
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John Knotts said:So just out of curiosity, why the same "I'm not going back" line in every thread regarding SFMM? For the 1 or 2 people here that haven't gotten it yet? Just wondering...

One of the "benefits" of the forum is that some park insiders DO read them. This place provides an enormous amount of feedback to the parks that care enough to read. Can't help but believe (based on my limited personal experience and the word of MANY others I trust) that SFMM's new GM, Jay Thomas, is infinitely more concerned about perceptions of the park than Del (Dull) Holland ever was. Some family-style attractions, and some flats, along with caring staff, etc. might do more than just bring 'Moosh back....or that's the POINT of the discussion as far as I can tell. (Not that the new GCII won't bring ME back to the park, hehe).


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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 12:35 PM
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John Knotts said: So just out of curiosity, why the same "I'm not going back" line in every thread regarding SFMM? For the 1 or 2 people here that haven't gotten it yet? Just wondering...

Answered in my post from 10:09a yesterday, near the top of page 2.

Last edited by Mamoosh, Tuesday, December 9, 2008 12:35 PM
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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 2:02 PM
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For what it's worth, I was considering a trip to MM in 2009, but will put it off til 2010 because of this news. I hate planning a trip to a park only to later find out that I was a few months away from the opening of a new ride.


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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 2:40 PM

^Well, there's one good reason not to announce your new attractions too far in advance.


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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 2:48 PM
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I have to side with ApolloAndy on this one. Then again, I have yet to check out Tatsu.


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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 4:19 PM

Answered in my post from 10:09a yesterday, near the top of page 2.

Gotcha. Still sounds like a broken record to me, but it doesn't really bother me, just curious.

As for the early annoucement of yet another rollercoaster, I can't help but think this is Shapiro's way of countering the still constant "is the park closing?" rumors that I hear every now and then.

Last edited by John Knotts, Tuesday, December 9, 2008 4:23 PM
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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 4:54 PM
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Well I figure I'd b!tch and complain for just as many years as I received horrible service at the park. My record will be playing for a few more years.

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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:03 PM

With all of the negative comments I read about service at SFMM on various message boards, here are a few times I have received great service there.

In Sept, 07, I bought dippin dots. The clerk sold me a medium for the price of a small.

In Nov, 07, I used flash passes to go on Tatsu, The 3rd and 4th times I went on it I was the only person in the flash pass line. The ride operator let me ride twice and didn't take my passes. So I got to go on Tatsu 6 times even though I only had 4 flash passes.

In Feb, 08, I ate at Panda Express. I had a coupon for a free drink if you buy a combo meal but if you use it you cannot also use your Play Pass to get a 25% discount. The clerk gave me 25% off of my meal and didn't charge me for the drink.


My mother (1946-2009) once asked me why I go to Magic Mountain so much. I said I feel the most alive when I'm on a roller coaster.
2010 total visits: SFMM-9, KBF-2
2010 total ride laps: 437

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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:30 PM
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Medium Dippin Dots for the price of a small? Oh, well that's different! I guess I better get my 09 Season Pass...lol ;)

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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:37 PM

If you don't want to go, no problem, that's your decision. I have been going there since 1984 and I love it there. I have never received bad service and I already have my 09 Season Pass.


My mother (1946-2009) once asked me why I go to Magic Mountain so much. I said I feel the most alive when I'm on a roller coaster.
2010 total visits: SFMM-9, KBF-2
2010 total ride laps: 437

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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:53 PM

Mamoosh said:
Well I figure I'd b!tch and complain for just as many years as I received horrible service at the park. My record will be playing for a few more years.

The sales of your record have flatlined and show no growth in sales Moosh. :)

Time to head back into the studio to do a new track? ;)

I think we get it. Every Magic Mountain thread, you repeatedly drop the "I still refuse to go back" bit. We know. You've only mentioned it about 108310784013780 times. You're almost the new BatwingfanSFA in a way in regards to Magic Mountain.

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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 8:08 PM
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I'd cut the guy some slack. He's been here a lot longer than this guy who registered today. As far as I'm concerned, Moosh's opinion is valuable and not any less valid.


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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:26 PM

With Jay Thomas running the show there, I can only imagine that the place has improved and it's supported by recent TR's of the place.

But I do agree that a collection of flats needs to be part of the added attractions instead of another coaster.

I usually don't agree with this thinking but maybe Shapiro is interested in making this park once again having the most coasters in the future. The GCI next year and another coaster in 2010 would tie with CP (granted CP doesn't add another)

With this new GCI woodie coming next year and the removal of Psyclone and Flashback, they really don't have a bad coaster in the park now (Superman is just boring now that it is neutered).

If I ever get out to So Cal again, I will give SFMM another shot.


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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:43 PM
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SFMMAddict said:
In Sept, 07, I bought dippin dots. The clerk sold me a medium for the price of a small.

Snipped for brevity there is a difference between good customer service and encountering staffers who are, uh, breaking the rules. Like charging you for a small and then handing you a medium, that's not good customer service, that's stealing.

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Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:20 AM
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Let alone the fact that a small Dippin Dots is still more than should ever be charged for it...

Like matt. said, there is a big difference between good customer service and people who just don't do their job. Not saying that I have never benefited from things such as that, but I wouldn't go to name it "good customer service."

I have never been to SFMM, so I really can't judge myself, but based on majority of review, I would lean on doing something other than the Mountain if I was limited in time on the west coast for park visiting.


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Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:48 AM

Great Adventure added a bunch of flats several years ago. Most were hardly ever open and were eventually removed. I think I understand why SFMM has stayed away from them. I'd rather the coasters be open, running at full capacity, and the park well run and respectful of their guests.

A bunch of flats added just for show is not my idea of improvement. I wouldn't mind seeing a flat or two added where they make sense, as long as they are open.

YMMV

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Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:14 AM

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I agree. Most of the time I don't even ride flat rides at SFMM. I go there exclusively to ride as many coasters as possible. The more coasters they build the better. They only flat ride I miss is the Enterprise which was there until the early 90's, I loved all those constant loops.

Last edited by Jeff, Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:51 AM

My mother (1946-2009) once asked me why I go to Magic Mountain so much. I said I feel the most alive when I'm on a roller coaster.
2010 total visits: SFMM-9, KBF-2
2010 total ride laps: 437

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Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:55 AM
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^No need to quote the entire post directly above yours. But anyway, I think it's a VERY small minority that thinks "more coasters = better park". Certainly, the majority of the dollars to be earned are in gearing the park experience more to families instead of thrillseekers. SFMM is in a unique position because DL/DCA and Knotts have already sewn up the "high-disposable-income family market" in SoCal...so MM is left with families who have little disposable income, and teenagers.

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Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:57 AM
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I love it. A roller coaster park announces plans for a new roller coaster. Roller coaster enthusiasts (who are supposed to like roller coasters) do nothing but complain about the fact that a new roller coaster is being built. Did I miss something? Personally, I go to parks for roller coasters, not spin-&-pukes.


Six Flags is going to do what Six Flags is going to do. If it means another coaster for me to ride, then I say it's a good thing. Is it the best move for the park? Maybe not, but I don't care. SFMM will not be closing no matter how well or poorly run the chain is.

Last edited by Soggy, Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:01 AM

Pass da' sizzrup, bro!

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