Well i guess i should allege people who call us "white people" discrimanting and being racism since people wording of using " white people".
Apollo15, I totally disagree, because we're not a minority. I have no idea how I knew what your post meant, because it really didn't make sense.
Jeff, I know I'm only 17, but there are a ton of buzzers, younger ones in particular, that are making some incredibly unwise and unthought out remarks on this site.
If I ever sink to that level, someone please wake me up.
Apollo, I don't know what your problem is. First don't even talk about gangs and violence being more in LA. For you to say that, I hope you live here. What you said before about a park being able to eject people from parks because they THINK they may do something wrong is called racial profiling. I don't see why this is so hard to believe when this stuff happens everyday. Happened to me 4 times and I am 16. Its there and it happeneds and just because this is Magic Moutain doesn't exclude it.
I still think that no one here knows what happened unless you are that guard or those kids so you really can't say what happened. Its not fair to them to say they are in it for the money because that is a very strange way to try and get money.
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RPR, an amusemsent park is not a public space like a park, unless you're talking about a park like Knoebels which has no fences or walls. Even malls, where thousands of people congregate, are a private space. When you pay your money for a ticket at a themepark, you're agreeing to follow the rules set by the park once you step inside, whether or not you read the rules. It's as simple as that. Understand, I'm not saying anyone disobeyed the rules in the suit.
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Could'nt said it better myself Intamin Fan...Yes gangs are problem every where, but SFMM tend bring a lot more gangs to the park.
Yea, and you don't know the excact story, how do you know that they are just out there to get money. Did you see it happen. My opionion still stands, and for alleging the park for ejecting that person for ever reason.
Minorities are not the only one's discrimated.
White people are discrimited more than you may think. And i agree with Intamin Fan.
And no it not very strange for a way of getting money. people file suets for alleging discrimanting that don't really add up.
I'm not saying that they were not discriminated.
Could be, and could be not.
I did'nt mean to offend anyone in this new aritcle. I'm just trying to make an appoint.
My sister has about the same problem, she applied for a job, realize that there were all guys there found out that the boss was gay and only hiring guys.
But it hard to prove that, because what if the guys have more expreince with job market than she does. This went off topic.
point i'm trying to make is that if SfMM were to found out if those dozen of sercurity were all racist, i find that very unlikly, this is 2000 not the 50's. I doubt it there would be a dozen to escort them out of the park! They would do a full review on security and i'm sure the corperate office would come in!
All of the directors are very nice.
"Our security measures do not use race in any way, shape or form."
And if they did you know how much business they would lose!
And i beleave that
*** This post was edited by Apollo15 on 8/12/2001. ***
Hey SPYDA i never ever ever call a black person a n*gger!
And i did read your post and it make a good point too!!!
No i'm not a god, ok. Nor to a plan to be one.
But gennerally calling someone white is a direct term of racist.... Good don't support BUSH i did'nt vote for him!
Calling someone white is not a term of racism, well I guess it is, but not in a derogitory way. I think what most people are trying to say is don't say someone is going only after the money. Thats not always the case. You cannot just say it didn't happen because of race because it may have. I do have to say though, maybe they could have taken it as a racial thing it may not have been. Of course they could be lying, or telling the truth. We don't know.
I want to know why are you totally against their allagations
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*** This post was edited by Jephry on 8/12/2001. ***
I'm not totally against there alligations.
Alleging that a park or other of discrimination is very serous not something to joke around with. Or lie
Well, I moderatly think this is blown completly out of proportion. I think they only told the part that made them look even more like victims.
Ohh hell no, you will canoot juss say that b/c theres no white people suing the park, that theres no racial profiling. These people need to open there eyes and realize that it does happen, and to almost ALL minorites especially BLACK people(which I can say b/c I am one). In my park white kids cut line all the time, they jump over fences to cut, even get off the ride and dont exit, they juss get back in the loading gates, but they never get kicked out, and thats cutting. I've seen minorites get kicked out b/c they were shopping, not stealing, and they stayed in a store to long. All they white people and those blacks who want to be white, and are taking up for them you all need to see the big picture and realize that even after this case it will still go on, b/c thats juss how it is.
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As a atino enthusiast this kinda thing makes me sad but at the same time I agree maybe there is something the news hasn't reported....but in whatever case it still doesen't justify racism.
This is too bad. Without being there, it is hard to comment on what happened. Going on personal experience, however, I'm inclined to believe that the charges are warranted. I urge all the people that don't believe the charges to really take a look around and make themselves aware of the discrimination that still takes place in our day to day life.
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Black and Latinos are not the only one's who get kick out, Whites do get kicked out, you just don't here about it, becuase they are not sueing for alleging that the park was being racist. Because they broke a park rule or look like they are in a gang
They are just being prejudice about being because they did'nt get to ride together!
I think since they did'nt ride together they are using there nationality as in getting them back but that my opinion.
But i sure the courts will decide or SFMM whether they will do an sercurity look at the guards they hire
Well i'm sorry that a spelled words wrong, but so do you. And my text is totally opinion.
Apollo15, its so apparent you obviously think the plaintiffs in the suit are lying. Do you *know* all of the facts in the case? Why do you assume *they* as you put it, are lying. Sure, maybe something is being withheld, but thats up to the courts to decided. Im not going to automatically assume anything, intil the trial is over. But apparently you have. Would hate to have you on a jury......
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Watch your language folks... putting asterisks in place of one or two letters doesn't exactly make it a mystery what you're trying to say. Keep it clean.
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just another coase of the black man being held down.
But seriously folks, I don't see how you people could be making remarks about this stuff. No one knows EXACTLY what went on there, so all this racial stuff really should be kept between the SFMM, and the people suing them. Maybe the stories true and maybe it isn't. Let the court decide.
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In many instances like this, most people are unaware of the true facts and voice opinions based on preconceived ideas about matters of race. To some extent everyone who has posted is right and to some extent they are wrong. I do not deny that there are racist people out there and the truth is that there are racist people of every ethnicity, but it is also true that there are many instances in which negative things happen to minorities that are not racial motivated but people might just assume that they are or will say that they are in order to get what they want, which in some cases could mean money. It is unfortunate that many people are narrow-minded about things and will jump to conclusions in either direction, but as surely as it would annoy a minority for a person of European origin like myself to dismiss any accusation of racism as a sensationalist attack, it bothers me when people of various enthnicities accuse people or European descent of doing something racist when there may be much more to it than appears, such as if someone is arrested for doing a crime but says that they were only arrested because of their skin color. Such a false accusation is just as horrible as if they really were stopped for such a reason.
I think that too many people in this world use excuses and put blame on other people in too many situations! I also think that a lot of people use racism to put blame on someone else when they need to just step up and take the responsibility for doing something wrong.
I'm NOT saying that this is the case here at SFMM or that racism doesn't exist in the world, becasue it surely does no matter how hard some of us try to block it out and not think about it. So, on this topic I am neither here nor there, due to fact that I don't know all the specifics of what happened that day.
All I'm saying is when a lot of people start suing over anything and everything, other people that are observing might not believe them. This is because there are way to many people suing over the silliest things nowadays just for their own financial gain. So that is why when something like this happens, no matter what the persons skin color is, people assume that the person is lying just to get money.
I agree it should be just between SFMM and the people sueing, accidents such things like that should be decided by the people and SF or any other place!
SORRY JEFF, Will keep it clean!
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