LA Times wraps up 2016 new attraction announcements for Six Flags

ApolloAndy said:

the fact that many of them were already overbuilt thanks to the early 2000's era.

Always personally thought if Six Flags added 1 coaster every other season at GL (or SFO...er SFWoA) over the course of 10+ seasons that park my have survived the transformation instead of the all in one season approach.

But it seems like SF is following a CF type plan of attack here with Cap Ex. One maybe two large investments a season while every other park gets something small such as a flat ride or two, water park expansion or general infrastructure improvements.

gamerguy said:

Its funny that no b&m is ever mentioned in the top steel coasters

Top coaster lists are pretty subjective. I could have 10 coasters in my top 10 that you've never ridden, does that make my list wrong?

However, on this very website. Two of the top three coasters and 3 of the top ten are B&Ms'.

sxcymike said:

Yet you chose to evade the fact that there "looping coasters" that they have been adding at parks like popcorn stands isn't a carnival flat. I must impugn your vituperation on "bias" for no exemptions were giving nor mentioned about Cedar Fair parks "repackaging" of their attractions from me. If this thread was in reference to that then it would've been addressed.

Impugn? Vituperation? huh?

I'm not impressed. If you want people to respect your ideas, you have to communicate them in a way that they easily understand. There are much better words to use in place of those. I write like I talk, and I find it works well on forums like CoasterBuzz. Also, the misuse of "there" when you meant "their" kind of threw me off a little.

I say this to help you in the future, and not to make fun of you now, although I have no idea what your point is.

Maybe I'm just old and this is how all the kids talk these days. :D

WolfBobs said:

Always personally thought if Six Flags added 1 coaster every other season at GL (or SFO...er SFWoA) over the course of 10+ seasons that park my have survived the transformation instead of the all in one season approach.

Yes: that $40 million, 20 ride expansion of the park in 2000 really was not a smart move, in my opinion. Too much at once.

The years 2000-2003 were sort of freakish as far as cap-ex and coasters go in Northern Ohio. It was as if both parks (Cedar Point and Geauga Lake) stopped looking at each other as offering different class of amusement park experience to suddenly becoming intense competitors between each other.

Both parks did it. I mean, was it really necessary for CP to add MF, WT, and Dragster in that span? And was it necessary to add Batman, Villain, Superman, X-Flight, and their kiddie coaster in that span? In northern Ohio! I'm not complaining, but looking in hindsight, why was this market so important?

Don't get me wrong, that was probably the craziest and most fun time to be a park fan at that time. And a good portion of us were in the middle of it. I still refer to the line 'We drove past Park A to go to Park B!' sometimes because of the absurdity of naming your competition like Six Flags did.

I don't think MF & TTD were added to compete with Geauga Lake, I'd bet they were added to be the first 300 ft and, later, 400 ft coasters. You may, however be right about WT.

My opinion? I think the Dragster addition was accelerated because of the competition with Six Flags. I'd love to be a fly in that room when these decisions were made. Think of the context of things.

Cedar Point just finished Breakers Tower, Millennium Force and Breakers Express then SF comes into the picture. The economy recession of 2001 happens and yet major investments were continued to be made in each of those parks. It's just fascinating years later to look back at the reasoning for so much investment into northern Ohio.

I think the competition was a myth. CP was never materially affected by the operation of Six Flags. I think that was about Dick Kinzel's ego.