Knott's Berry Farm moves forward dismantling Windjammer

Posted Thursday, July 19, 2001 5:54 AM | Contributed by James Disney

Just a few years after it opened, the troubled TOGO racing coaster Windjammer at Knott's Berry Farm is being torn down. Construction crews (or should that be destruction crews) are working at a fever pace to take this ride down.

WestCoaster.net is pleased to be able to bring you on-site photos from the Windjammer site and will continue through the construction of Knott's newest ride, whatever it may be. We'd like to thank Knott's for the opportunity and are glad that we will be able to bring you, the readers the best possible coverage of the process.

Link: WestCoaster.net

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Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:13 AM
Pinch me to make sure I'm not dreaming, please!
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:19 AM
Ouch!
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:05 AM
They not being to kind with this thing are they.

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Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:23 AM
Well I guess we wont be seeing Wind Jammer resurrected somewhere else now will we?

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Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:50 AM
Windjammer: The Little Train That Couldn't.

Sooooo glad to see this pile of sh*t leave. It has been stinking up that corner of the Farm for too long now. It never fit in and just didn't look right. The new ride should look much better there!
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:38 AM
Looks like they just crashed a plane into the coaster.
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:52 AM
Finally, the torture coaster is coming down at last. I think I'll throw a party to celebrate its overdue departure from this planet.

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Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:29 AM
Did ANYONE enjoy this ride?

When Knott's added this ride a few years ago, I didn't understand their reasoning (why add a single-loop coaster to the park when they already had a Schwarzkopf shuttle and a Vekoma Boomerang?)... it seemed like a step backwards for them. Hopefully the park will replace it with a ride of Ghostrider caliber!
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:08 AM
Is this not the funniest coaster related thing ever? Knott's should trade the boomerang for the Corkscrew they gave to Silverwood. As for Windjammer, that is the only way to take out a pile of crap. It had a good layout but it was horrible. Rough and weak, what was that about?

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Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:37 AM
Just a thought, you think Cedar Fair just got ticked and is going to pack this thing up in big chunks and dump it on Togo's door??? Can't wait for next summer. I'm sure it will be that long before whatever it is is done. Another thing I noticed, that thing takes up a chunk of space! *** This post was edited by Skyboss on 7/19/2001. ***
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:01 PM
Don't worry, you can buy the Windjammer for only $1,000,000! http://www.italintl.com/coaster/index.htm

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Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:02 PM
hey BrandonR i honestly dont think that is the same one because by looking at those pictures it looks like that thing is never ever coming back, well at least with the same materials.
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:29 PM
BrandonR: it may be for sale but according to Jack Falfas it's headed right for the scrap heap.

Skyboss: If all goes well you won't have to wait until next summer.

Anyone else think they should bring back the Soap Box or Motorcycle Racer? It was so rare and seems to be quite beloved my many enthusiasts.
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:36 PM
****COULD SOMEBODY ANSWER THIS:*****

Since Im from Ohio, and have never been on Windjammer, other than hearing about poor operation and the lawsuit with TOGO, why the heck "exactly" is Cedar Fair "ripping" it out?

Did the lawsuit not hold?
No other buyers?
I can understand its removal, but I dont understand why it is being destroyed....
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:51 PM
Well, great, another coaster (bad or not) that I won't get to ride! Oh well, I'm sure there will be just a few more next year... ;)

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Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:11 PM
Hey John!

So far pictures only show that the station pieces have been ripped out. It's possible they might be a bit more careful on the rest. I guess we'll know soon.

WHY might the park not keep it in good, sellable condition? My guess that since the suit was well publicized what park would WANT to buy it? If you were in the market for a used car would you buy one that had chronic engine trouble?

I may be wrong but I believe the park won the lawsuit with the possible exception of having TOGO pay for the removal. Maybe someone else can confirm that.

IMHO there were bigger problems other than the fact that WindJammer would jam in a slight wind. The TOGO transitions were TERRIBLE, especially those square bunny hops mid-course. No compound curves on this baby! The trains had a high center of gravity, too, and riders sat so high that any small change in elevation or pitch was greatly accentuated. Even track that should have felt smooth, like the loop, didn't.

Did anyone like the ride? I'm sure you will find there are some who did, just like SFMM's Flashback has a few fans. But for the most part everyone I know is glad to see this go [especially those who know what's coming IN!]

Hope that answered some of your questions ;-)
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:18 PM
Mamoosh....

That did answer some questions, but yes, we will have to see what will become of the rest of the ride.

I just thought it would find itself in a Japanese park, since they are swimming in TOGO's over there already...
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:32 PM
JP: Can you imagine your home park filled with TOGO coasters? YIKES! No wonder the first report linking head injuries to coasters came from Japan ;-) *** This post was edited by Mamoosh on 7/19/2001. ***
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 3:28 PM
Can anyone remind me of the humorous abbreviation that coaster buffs have come up with to describe TOGO rides?

BTW, it strikes me as awfully strange that a company that produced quality rides, Giovanola, can exit the industry, whereas companies like TOGO that have consistently produced poor rides, continue to produce (though perhaps not as prolifically). Now I'm sure that, in Giovanola's case, it was a matter of business logistics, but isn't this sad in our great big world of coasters? A terrible paradox...anyone else have any thoughts?

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