Knoebels Pioneer Train

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:04 PM
Not really a coaster question, but close enough... Does anyone know who made this ride? The Knoebels website lists locations that the trains came from but no manufacturer.
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:31 PM
The infernal combustion trains are Allen Herschel and or Miniature Train Co. There are several G-16 sets, plus a S-16 steam outline. The other train ride is an early Crown. *** Edited 8/17/2004 6:32:13 PM UTC by Dutchman***
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:35 PM
rollergator's avatar Infernal Combustion? I just HAVE to wonder whether that was one of those "Freudian typos"....:)
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:38 PM
Freudian? Maybe. Check my posts on the CP&LE and you'll see the answer. Once a steam man, always a steam man.
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:47 PM
I was wondering if they were either G-12s or G-16s. That answers my question... thanks!

I guess they could either be MTC or Herschells, depending on the year each one was built?

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:58 PM
Exactly. I don't have a precise roster of the gas equipment. Dick has been adding to the roster for years. The S-16 replaced a homemade train in 1960 and is an allen Herschell product. The same year they bought the Crown. Lately they have been buying up G-16's (Diesel outline) trains when they come up on the market. A lot of Zoos and attractions have replaced them with the omnipresent Chance C P Huntington. Some of them were bought for parts, but I understand that invariable each set got restored.
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:11 PM
Which again, begs an answer to the question: Just how much stuff DOES Knoebels have in storage?
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:36 PM
We may never know. Sometimes I think that even Dick may not know.
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:42 PM
My guess is enough to start another park. From what I heard they don't throw anything out. They either try to use it for somthing else or keep it. I would love to see their storage area. I bet they have all kinds of cool things laying around.

I did hear they still have their Flying Cages. I imangine they probably have spare bumper cars, whip cars, carousel horses, motor boats, and who knows what else.

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:46 PM
What ever happened to those PTC trains from Michigan's Adventure that were under the pavillion by the museum?
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:00 PM
As a side note, "Infernal Combustion" was the name of the portable funhouse that appeared at Lesourdsville Lake during 2002.

Now, how to get a behind the scenes tour of Knoebels...

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:54 PM
Hmmm...That would be an interesting suggestion for PPP.
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:51 PM
I'll have to talk to some of my connections. I probably won't see it but hopefully find out whats in it.

I bet it would be more exciting than when Geraldo opened Al Capones vault.

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:02 PM
I dunno... that had me on the edge of my seat ;)

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