King of the Cedar Fair Woodies?
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....SO jealous of all of you that have ridden Timbers....
Ghostrider is ALL that, and so much more...and I loved ThunderHawk! Blue Streak is still a sweet John Allen, runs well for a family-style woodie. Mean Streak and Herc suffer from "D-S disease", which apparently forces coasters to be emasculated, or "bobbitized" as some call it...;).
Well Ghostrider is a personal favorite (as far as CF woodies go), but I have to think that if I tried Shivering Timbers that may change.
I wasn't too impressed with Blue Streak, though it is a classic. Mean Streak wasn't as rough as everyone makes it out to be, but the layout was so predictable (I guess I'm just used to Ghostrider) ;)
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coaster chaser said:
I would say it is a tie between Meanstreak and Shivering Timbers.-----------------
For those about to ride...we salute you!
What are you smoking? Meanstreak as good as Timbers!!!! Get real. I'd take Blue Streak over Meanstreak in a heartbeat. ST is the absolute king of airtime for ANY wooden. Meanstreak is the king of potential firewood.
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
jeremy
-who hasnt ridden all the CF woodies, but is most intruiged by GhostRider
Sometimes layout isnt ALL THAT. I havent ridden ST, but it garners some high praise. In my opinion, Blue Streak is 100 times funner and more re-ridable than MeanStreak. You arent gonna find a MORE predictable layout than BlueStreak, yet it still maintains its' prestige.
That being said, GhostRider is whithout a doubt the most amazing, insane, out-of-control,scary, surprising, wooden coaster I have ever been on! My favorite part is the small banking hop after the large drop that follows the mid-point turn-around. You can actuall feel the train come off the track and the up-stops slam into the underneath. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that this abusive behavior may lead to GhostRider recieving .......AHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOO.....trim brakes!!!!
PS - I am not too particularly fond of woodies to begin with, but would choose GhostRider over any other coaster, with the exception of MF.
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I've traded in my 2000 Giovanola for a 2002 Arrow X4D :)
My other car is now an Arrow X4D!
2Hostyl, Pedestrian, Please!!! If you call three hills over a hundred feet mundane than maybe you have some different definition of the word from the rest of us. Is 3 (yup, count em) hills over or close to hundred feet an everyday occurance on a wooden coaster? Heck, no. Also, what about ST's trick-track, a manuever that is quite rare. Or the double helix for the finale. So just becasue it is a out&back doesn't discredit the fact that the layout of ST is far from regular. Your just plain wrong on your assertion about ST, Most of the time I agree with you but i cannot back you on this one.
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Jeremy - That's what I used to think. Before I rode it, I thought ST's layout looked to be pretty much a bore: Up, down, up, down, blah, blah, blah...
After riding it, however, I can't help but look at it and say it's ingenius.
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"He's blazin' away like the stars in the universe.." A. Vega + M. Rev "Ghostrider"
Specifically regarding sethman's remarks, if the fact that the hills are taller than your average woodie makes it less repeative in your mind, then so be it. If one of them was twisted like Goliath's "Stengal Dive", I'd say that was different, but in actuality, Shivering Timbers layout is not that far advanced over say Judge Roy Scream @ SFoT or OrGASM @ SFoG. Maybe, *maybe* I'll give you the trick track bit, but do I really need to rattle off the number of coasters that end with a helix of some sort?
Anyway, the point I was making, which apparently was totally missed by some, I will clarify here. I do not see how someone could say that Mean Streak has a predictable layout and not feel that Shivering timbers has a predictable layout. I do not doubt that ST does what it does well. Actually, I do not really care as I am in no rush to go to Michigan to ride it. But as I said above, Excecution of the ride aside the layout *is* basic, standard, ordinary of an out and back coaster. Hey, maybe the simplest tricks really are the best?!?
lata,
jeremy
--who knows people who are still fascinated by the "Pick a card, any card" tricks....
310ftdrop said:
I like the smooth ride of Gemini!!
Gemini is considered steel, right?
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A Vekoma SLC would do Nebraska wonders! :-)
When did they take the tubular steel rails off of Gemini?
ST over Ghostrider, but only because I've ridden Ghostrider too much (is that possible?). ST in the front right hand seat, GR in any of the back three rows.
By the way, Ghostrider is nothing more than a double-out-and-back that is bent in the middle with a helix at the end. Execution is FAR more important than lay-out in my experience.
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22 parks in 2001.
Tremors, my 100th coaster.
Ghostrider, stopped counting laps at 100.
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I've traded in my 2000 Giovanola for a 2002 Arrow X4D :)
My other car is now an Arrow X4D!
I'll take ST over Ghostrider anyday, but I have quite the minorative opinion when it comes to Ghostrider AND Shivering Timbers.
And I love it when people read what they want to read, and construe out of a perfectly reasonable argument what they want to, such as just what happened with 2Hostyl's remarks. Yup, Shivering Timbers' is just as predictable as Mean Streak's, even more so. Does that mean that Shivering Timbers sucks?
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If the shoe fits, find another one.
I'll throw in my .02 cents but please take into consideration I have yet to ride Shivering Timbers:
1. Ghostrider, 2. Blue Streak, 3. Thunderhawk, 4. Timberwolf, 5. High Roller, 6. Mean Streak, 7. Hercules
I expect Shivering Timbers to land at #2 in this list because while I love airtime I prefer a variety of forces on coasters.
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2002 - the year of IB's LoCoSuMo!!
*** This post was edited by Mamoosh on 4/2/2002. ***
DEK said:
coaster chaser said:
I would say it is a tie between Meanstreak and Shivering Timbers.-----------------
For those about to ride...we salute you!
What are you smoking? Meanstreak as good as Timbers!!!! Get real. I'd take Blue Streak over Meanstreak in a heartbeat. ST is the absolute king of airtime for ANY wooden. Meanstreak is the king of potential firewood.
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Shivering Timbers is a pro but has not reached the rank to be called the King of Airtimes. Most of the time that title goes to the Phoenix. Even if you don't consider that, there are still many others ahead of it.
Woops, I forgot to actually answer the question.
I've only been on three:
Shivering Timbers, Ghostrider, Blue Streak, and I'd rate them in that order.
Ghostrider is definitely the "real deal," but I'm such an airtime junkie that I give ST the slight edge.
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"He's blazin' away like the stars in the universe.." A. Vega + M. Rev "Ghostrider"
Ravenguy, I wasn't constructing anything different out of 2hostyl's comment. He said it was regular layout, I disagreed. Just voicing a opinion.
Anyways, most coasters become predictable when you have ridden many of the same type. For example, some enthusiasts complain about how predictable the layouts for beemers are becoming. (vertical loop, immelmann, zero-g, cobra roll) Too much repitition of inversions. For me, it takes nothing away from the ride especially with the beemers or woodies. But lets face it, out&backs are self-explanatory, they go out and come back. At least, ST has a double-up, double-down and the trick-track to spice up the out&back layout. As everyone says it is in the execution of the layout that counts the most.
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2Hostyl said:
CFM: You critize Mean Streak's layout for being "so predictable", yet you feel that ST *might* be better than Ghostrider. Doesnt ST have the most absolutely mundane, pedantic, pedstrian layout of any of the "big name" coasters this side of Magnum? Excecution aside, I'd have *never* asked for a coaster with ST's layout....then again, I dont actually *own* a park...
jeremy
-who hasnt ridden all the CF woodies, but is most intruiged by GhostRider
Good point. Shivering Timbers may be the most predictable ride ever. So perhaps Ghostrider may very well be the best CF woodie. A completely twisted layout, plus good negative positive and lateral G's make this one a very solid competitior here. 49 times I have been on it, and its still good!
But I can't make any solid assumption until I have been on ST. If the airtime is close to how powerful as I have heard, it must be a great ride, despite the repetitive layout.
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