Kennywood releases renderings of Phantom's Revenge

looks awesome. the only thing i dont understand is when yer going up the second hill, i dont like that camelback thing

That "camelback thing" is going to give a lot of airtime... I can't wait.

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--Greg

http://www.pobox.com/~gregleg/

So are they getting rid of the Trim at the top or what?

I'm having a hard time seeing this project finished on-time. I don't see the tunnel happening, and the whole recycling thing sounds too odd to work. And why is it that we keep hearing about all of these changes? Most coasters of this size are set in stone long before this stage of the game.

Don't get me wrong, I want it to work and I'll be there the earliest possible day to ride it, but the project management appears just a little too crazy for it all to work.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com

It's just Harry Henninger messin' with our heads.I know Dana Morgan. He would never undertake a project like this without eveything on "paper" first. The design was set probably last spring. The rest of what had been said is pure hype. They had every intention of recycling the best parts of the Phantom from the very begining. Just look how much free press they have gotten out of this.

That helix on the aerial view looks huge. I never had the chance to ride Steel Phantom but this layout looks pretty cool. Question, has Morgan or any other major coaster company taken on a recycling project from a coaster that was built by a competitor?

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"DONT FIGHT IT, RIDE IT",,,,RAGING BULL

I can't wait to ride it.
BadNitrus's version was actually pretty darn accurate, except that I can see a few more airtime hills in the official drawings.

God knows I've been wrong in the past, I'll be wrong in the future, and I'm probably wrong now, but I honestly think Kennywood has some sort of head-fake going on. It's all just too darned weird. First they don't paint the second hill, then they do. First they say there will be an underground tunnel, now we hear of a partially above ground/partially below ground tunnel. Of course, all the while, we never had (and if you ask me, still don't) an official layout.

Do we know if those layouts are exactly what will be? I mean, they give credit to Tom Delano... not an official firm. For all I/we know, yes, he might be involved in a professional computer design company, but if he is, they don't mention it. How do we know he didn't do those on his own and gave them to Kennywood, just to have his name associated with the project? I especially wonder about the cars on the "drop view". Is it me, or do I see two-seat cars? That doesn't seem kosier to me. Also, as I mentioned, the "tunnel view" has a completely underground tunnel. Some have said the tunnel will only be partly underground, due to the fact that it would be incredibly hard to build over the upcoming, projected-harsh winter here in Pittsburgh.

This is one hell of a jigsaw puzzle, and so far, we've only got the straight-edge pieces fit together, if you ask me. ;)

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How dare you vanquish the Steel Phantom without his consent? Fear the Phantom's Revenge.

I think that we should all commend the Kennywood marketing group. Think about it, they created this whole scheme up about the Phantom staying because of community responce, when in actuality they could have gone the easy route and said, "We are being cheap, and in doing so, we will tear parts of this coaster and make a new one." I am sorry, I guess I am looking at this all really negatively, but it is getting out of hand. At least get new trains. I can see using the same supports on the ride, but the whole track issue is disgusting. I truely hope this is a good coaster though, because I am going to be riding it. I also hope that Kennywood does not end up looking like fools for doing something so ridiculous. Sorry if I offended any hardcore KP fans, but this is my opinion.

it will be an improvement to the origonal phantom those inversions wer nasty as long as it has a lap bar of some type and not OTS restraints i am looking forward to it although that picture does look a bit lame i have confidence that morgan will treat us right

Missy, I think some of your concearns have been answered in previous posts and news items.

They are not using all old track. As far as I know (and the last time I drove past KW) I've noticed that all new track is being put in by Morgan. Just the supports for the lift and second hill is being maintained. As far as the trains, only the chassis is being maintained. It will have a completely new look.

"...I also hope that Kennywood does not end up looking like fools for doing something so ridiculous..."

On the contrary, Kennywood has received an outpour of support from the GP for maintaining the two most sought-after elements of the original coaster.

Why must everyone be so quick to be so overly judgemental about a coaster that no one has experienced? At least wait until April!

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Neil
Pittsburgh, PA
www.geocities.com/neildeweese

Seven asks: "Why must everyone be so quick to be so overly judgemental about a coaster that no one has experienced?"

I think it's because the details are all to vague, and we can't answer all of the questions.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com

Coastergenius, WHAT trim at the top? The only trim Phantom had was on the rise out of the valley, into the vertical loop, and that track is gone. If that's the trim you were referring to, then yes, they're removing it ;)


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--Greg

http://www.pobox.com/~gregleg/

It will be interesting to see how this whole thing comes together. I am especially interested in seeing how Morgan handles the transition from the second drop into the turn at the ravine bottom. I feel Arrow did a good job on this but thier transition out of the turn was a little painful. No matter what I can't wait to ride the thing next summer as I have always loved that second drop.

I think the overall layout seems kinda short. I have a feeling they are gonna throw in something new that nobody knows about.

I think it looks pretty good. the second drop looks even better than the original. It also appears to be a much wide curve. the original cut back up the hill not too far from the pit fall. If I remember correctly there are a bunch of buildings in this area. did they buy this land and destroy the buildings?

jdancisin: If I follow you correctly, you are referring to the turn-around near the station, towards the end of the ride. I think there's a lot more land there than you think... the inversions did take up a sizeable chunk of real estate.

There are buildings back there. (Behind Pittfall/Exterminator.) I understand they're owned by Kennywood and house seasonal employees. If all goes well in my mind's eye, they'll be gone soon, and all opened up for expansion. Imagine having a path from the Turtles, along PR's "Alley" past the station (Where that access road-type thing is now), meet up with Lost Kennywood by Pittfall, and go back into more rides and attractions where the employee housing is now. That would be awesome.

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How dare you vanquish the Steel Phantom without his consent? Fear the Phantom's Revenge.

Lynch, Tom Delano isn't some guy that just did it out of the goodness of his heart. This guy did some great renderings of Boulder Dash, and many other companies like Bic. I suggest you check those BD at fiftyfour.com *** This post was edited by Steel Phantom 1991-2000 on 11/14/2000. ***

I couldn't get any of the alternate views to load. Anybody know why?