Kennywood have no more space for expansion?

I don't think Kennywood is worried about it. WHEN they add their next attraction I am sure they will utilize what they have without any issues.

-Tina

razore86 said:
Just to let you know that Ride op was lying. I work at Kennywood and we know just as much as the public knows about the new attractions. In fact the first time I heard about Garfield's Nightmare was from screamscape.com

I actually knew about Garfield's Nightmare, sometime in July, and it wasn't from Screamscape or any other outside source;)

So some employee's do know about the upcoming new attractions...however I really don't know what is new for next year, I've heard Rumors...that is all.

Kpjb knows though!!!;)

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Zero-G said:

Old attractions which no longer have any value to your product are prime locations for new attractions.

Or they could just get new rolling stock for Phantom ever few years.

Ben

Or better yet, turn those trains around! Why is it usually woodies that get to have their coaches ride backwards?

The backwords thing would only be fun for a couple of seasons though. Then rotating floorless cars with OTSR's!

Sorry Ben, that won't happen. I think it would make people lose their stomachs. And considering all the rides and areas of the park that are under it, well, you get the idea...
Seriously, though, my thoughts on the subject tend to be this:
3 great wooden coasters, each one a classic from(partially, at least) the roaring twenties!
2 excellent steel coasters that offer very different and fun rides
A bunch of flats that are rare (well, whips are virtually nonexistent in the west, anyway [why is that?]) mixed with more recent examples...
The park needs nothing else, rides-wise. Let it be.

*** Edited 8/9/2004 2:48:04 AM UTC by Robocoaster***

So that I guess that means stand-up trains for Thunderbolt are out of the question? :-(

I have nothing against stand-ups, Riddler's Revenge is one of my favorite coasters of all-time. But, when it comes to woodies, I'd prefer to sit down on them.

Speaking of "expansion..."

Well that's just great! Now instead of snickering only at "woodie", I'll also giggle at the term "expansion" as well. Thanks Ben. Thanks a whole lot!

Those of you that think Kennywood should just stay put and do nothing are crazy...I mean, its not like adding new rides is something new that they just started doing a few years ago. They have in fact added a new ride or updated one every single year from 1975 until presently, minus 1998 and 2002. But even in those 2 years, improvements were made elsewhere. Adding things and updating this, while maintaining the calssic rides and the look and atmosphere is what has kept people coming and its also what has made Kennywood stay in business for over 100 years. They cant just up and stop adding new things. The park would die eventually.

The Millenium Force ride Ops: Squishing you where it counts since 2000. Track Record: 89 coasters

I've seen many changes at Kennywood during the fifty years of my life. Most, if not all were for the good. What I have a problem with is people who think that increasing the size of the park is the only way to improve it. While they have done that with "Lost Kennywood", the largest construction project the park has undertaken since it was built, it was done with a great amount of planning to insure that Kennywood experience was maintained. By blending new with the old,it will soon be difficult to see where the"line" is once the trees mature.

There are bits of pieces of truth in all these responses. To summarize :

l. Within the traditional park boundaries, KW has always rotated out rides and replaced them with new ones. The most famous examples are The Rotor, Laff in the Dark, TiltaWhirl, various Ferris Wheels, Flying Scooters, Rockets, The Dipper, and the Rolloplane.

2. KW has also expanded the boundaries several times. The most well known are (l) the tunnelling under Kennywood Boulevard for the present entrance south of the road, meaning the whole south edge of the present park (Grand Prix, Musik Express, Swings, etc.) is on what used to be trolley loading dock and a second entrance, and (2) Lost Kennywood, which sits on what was once a small parking area.

3. KW does own the lower parking lot, upper parking lot, 75% of the residential property on top of the hill (including behind Exterminator, Phanton and TBolt), plus down the east and north cliffs to the shelf on which the railroads still run.

4. The area behind the Racers and Jackrabbit is occupied by maintenance buildings and park servicing access. Those may not be scenic or entertaining, but they're necessary.

5. KW does indeed average a ride a year and a major update to something in years a brand new ride was not added. Just recently, major updates to Noah's Ark, The Old Mill and the Log Flume were completed.

6. The reason KW displays a very conservative expansion or renovation pace is because it is a locally owned company very conservatively managed in a region hard hit by the collapse of Big Steel and without the deep pockets of Cedar Fair or Six Flags. KW manages for the long haul, not the next five years. They understand their market very, very well, and they manage their resources precisely to serve that clientele. Anyone who drops by from outside the region is a welcome addition, but the local constituency is their bread and butter, and they serve it perfectly.

I agree with everything in the post above mine. Especially #6 - very good stuff there.

But...

KW did put billboards up in Ohio this year, specifically trying to pull people from areas roughly 2 hours away. So you have to wonder if the desire for just a little more isn't there.

coasterimage - lordgonchar

Robocoaster said:
...when it comes to woodies, I'd prefer to sit down on them.

*snigger*

-Jim

Me too Rob. ;-)

-Tina

Trekker Park said:
There are bits of pieces of truth in all these responses. To summarize :
5. KW does indeed average a ride a year and a major update to something in years a brand new ride was not added. Just recently, major updates to Noah's Ark, The Old Mill and the Log Flume were completed.

What do you mean "just recently?"

There hasn't been any "Major update" to Noah's Ark recently. 9 Years ago was the last major update, and that's when the whole ark was renovated. *** Edited 8/10/2004 4:25:50 PM UTC by KpExpress***

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With a 100+ year old park, I'd say 9 years is still recent.

Hi

Right. To me, when discussing KW, anything since 1990 is Recent History. It would be the same if I were discussing the Pirates, Steelers, or downtown Pittsburgh.