Kennywood have no more space for expansion?

Saturday, August 7, 2004 5:12 PM
Since I just went to Kennywood a few days ago, I have noticed that they don't have much more land available. Is this true? Will they be able to add a nice size coaster in the park? The only piece of land that could be used is the ravine where Thunderbolt and Phantom's second drop are.
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Saturday, August 7, 2004 5:26 PM
Cedar Point Does Not Have A Space Problemâ„¢

Oh, sorry ... old habit. :)

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Saturday, August 7, 2004 5:49 PM
Yes, Id say they do have quite a space problem at Kennywood. One place that is always talked about is the area behind racer and Jack Rabbit. Other than that though, there's really no room for another good sized rollercoaster. Kennywood apparently purchased a monorail a couple of years back, and there were rumors about Kennywood moving the parking lot, and then using the current parking lot for expansion, and using the monoral to transport people from the parking lot to the park. This will probably never happen though. Something thats been talked about that sounds a little more reasonable, is that Kennywood has been trying to purchase those houses behind exterminator, when they get them all purchased they could extend some more that way. Not sure how much truth there is to that one either though.
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Saturday, August 7, 2004 7:22 PM
Kennywood is almost perfect. Why do they need more room?
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Saturday, August 7, 2004 8:47 PM
Yes, they do have a space problem. I think they have explored the idea of expanding into the Ravine. Tricky bit of landscapping since they don't want to mess with their star attractions. They've worked so hard to make Thunderbolt and Phantom's Revenge the best. Maybe they could have a third attraction dip down into that ravine. Parks like Morey's Pier have done more with less space.
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Saturday, August 7, 2004 9:25 PM
Kennywood does not have a space problem. Anyone whos been to IB could see that.

Chuck

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Saturday, August 7, 2004 9:38 PM
True, but part of the atmosphere of Kennywood comes from not having rides on top of one another.
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Saturday, August 7, 2004 10:15 PM
IB might have some great rides, and it's "neat" that they're all stacked up on each other, but in my opinion it looks like crap compared to Kennywood.

My point before though was that I don't think Kennywood really needs more rides. Sure, I'd love to see some kind of neat steel coaster or something, but it's one of the few parks I'd hate to see something disturbed in the name of "progress."

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Saturday, August 7, 2004 10:49 PM
If looks really mattered to me, (Other than discusting) I would have missed out on a ton of fun at a ton of parks.

Truthfully, Too bright and too sterile really annoys me Like Dorneys atmosphere that has totally gone away.

While I'll agree Kennywoods layout is a excellent atmopshere I do think they have room to put in a couple rides, Even a coaster. I don't Think a couple double decked picnic pavilions would hurt anything and actually help in the room dept.

Chuck

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Saturday, August 7, 2004 11:29 PM
The houses behind Exterminator are indeed being bought by the park, piece by piece. It will be a few years before they can use the property. It's a slow process, so don't expect too much real soon.

As for a new coaster at the park, it's anyone's guess of when, what, or how. However, I do think that it's inevitable that the park WILL install something new someday. Maybe not next year, maybe not for five or ten years, but I would guess that SOMETHING will be added someday. They still need to bring in the public year after year. I just hope they can 'shoehorn' something in without removing any of the classic rides or atmosphere of the park. And I agree about Indiana Beach. Great park ridewise, but it really isn't the prettiest park out there. Kennywood, however, IS. I would hate to see rides stacked on top of one another at Kennywood and destroy it's beauty.

Give Kennywood time. I'll bet that when they add something new, it'll be one heck of an addition!

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Saturday, August 7, 2004 11:32 PM
Has anyone else noticed that SP/PR goes through an old coaster?

Doesn't seem like there was a space problem for that ride. *** Edited 8/8/2004 3:33:08 AM UTC by ApolloAndy***

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Saturday, August 7, 2004 11:52 PM
Apollo Andy, I don't understand what you mean. The reason why the two coasters go over/under/through each other is because there IS a lack of space.

The group of houses behind the Exterminator would be perfect. All the land there is actually flat so there wouldn't need to be a lot of work done, landscape-wise. I don't think there's any type of new coaster in the works for the immediate future, but everybody knows that when one is added, it will be spectacular.

Kennywood is a little short on land, but I know they can be creative and work out some kind of expansion without destroying the classic atmosphere.

I've also supported double/triple decker pavilions to save space. Only time will tell, I guess...

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Sunday, August 8, 2004 12:19 AM
And don't forget that the white-water rapids ride returns to the loading area via conveyer belt underneath of Thunderbolt.
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Sunday, August 8, 2004 12:46 AM
My point was that the lack of space didn't present a problem for building a big shiny new ride.
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Sunday, August 8, 2004 12:52 AM
The Dipper coaster had to be removed in order for the Raging Rapids to be built.

The Laser Loop was removed for the Steel Phantom to be built. The Phantom's Revenge had to use parts of the Steel Phantom to be built.

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Sunday, August 8, 2004 12:59 AM
New attractions bring in guests, not more land.

Old attractions which no longer have any value to your product are prime locations for new attractions.

Point being, You don't need more room to add attractions, when you are removing old, unpopular or ineffecient ones at the same rate.

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Sunday, August 8, 2004 10:28 AM
Speaking of expansion....during my yearly visit to kennywood, I was chatting with a ride op at aero 360 about the land and what they have left to use. He metioned the ravine, and the houses behind exterminator, but nothing about behind racer and JR. He also said kennywood is getting something new next season. Kennywood will be getting a new ride next year were his exact words. He said he couldnt tell me about it, because thats all he knows about it, so if he was telling me the truth, I dunno....but lets hope its some nice flat ride, Because, like Jeff said, Kennywood is wonderful the way it is.
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Sunday, August 8, 2004 11:46 AM
Just to let you know that Ride op was lying. I work at Kennywood and we know just as much as the public knows about the new attractions. In fact the first time I heard about Garfield's Nightmare was from screamscape.com
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Sunday, August 8, 2004 1:35 PM
I really wish some of you would realize that bigger isn't necessarily better. If I recall properly, KW owns the whole hillside where the parking lot is(including the shopping center at the top,I beleive).They could develop the section directly across KW Blvd. and push the parking further up the hill, but why? Kennywood is an excellent example of the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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Sunday, August 8, 2004 3:31 PM
Actually, Kennywood is a park that will change things if it sees ways to improve. What they did with the Phantom was unprecedented, and created quite an uproar when they dismantled their world class coaster. The careful perfectionists that manage Kennywood will expand only when every last detail has been worked out, and it will be great.
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