Kennywood announces Phantom's Revenge for 2001 (updated)
Posted Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:53 AM | Contributed by Seven-of-9
Kennywoods new coaster, Phantom's Revenge, was revealed today as the replacement for Steel Phantom. According to the park's spokeswoman, the first two drop will be retained, but will have no inversions. It is expected to reach speeds of 85 mph. The chassis of the coaster and the location of the loading station will also remain part of the Phantom's Revenge.
D.H. Morgan will design the new track, which will be 200 feet longer, bringing the total length to 3,200 feet. It is also said the a camelback hump will be added between the first 2 drops, as well as a tunnel.
This is the second time that Kennywood has revamped an exisiting coaster. The first being the Pippin (built in 1924), which was redesigned in 1968 and emerged as the famous Thunderbolt.
Fans of the Steel Phantom have until Labor Day to get their final ride.
CoasterRick, what I meant when I said that they do not compete with each other is location wise. The GP doesn't travel as far as us coaster addicts do to ride roller coasters. Meaning, that Cedar Point need to advertise themselves in Columbus Ohio while Kennywood doesn't. As far as I know there arent any Six Flags near Kennywood (not 100% sure)
Why did they build Aero 360? Well, remember that when your going through the Phantoms loops your going incredibly fast which is part of the reason that the loops arent as injoyable.
I'm so excited to go and ride this ride next year. I remember saying on the way home from my last trip there that the first two hills are incredible, but the rest of the ride wasn't that exciting for me. Well, looks like all thats gonna change :-) I can't wait! ------------- Columbus, OH - The roller coaster epicenter of the world.
Some of you are going out of your way to psycho-analyze the thought processes of Kennywood's management. To speculate what they want to do is kind of silly unless you really know any of them personally.
I'm OK with this new ride, depending on who makes it. I guess we'll see what happens.
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As the person who said it would use LIMS to send it down a 325 foot hill...
Boy do I feel dissapointed.
Really, im still hoping im right, where as there is no proof im not, but lets not get too hopeful. Basically we know that the first half of the ride is relatively the same, and fairly dissapointing with that.
The second half MIGHT change our minds. How about a midcourse drop along side the first? Or maybe some bunnyhops at the bottom of the ravine? This could be airtime galore, if they pull it off right and change all of our current biased minds.
Boy is that dangerous to say.
I guess well see...
------------- I would like 2 Steel Dragons and a king size MF to go, please.
Oh and can I get a Tonnerre de Zeus pack 'o matches?
I still think the new coaster will be better than the Phantom even if it doesn't break records! As far as I know it still have be the world's largest TERRAIN coaster but I could be wrong but I like drop much better than loops if they are designed for airtime!! ------------- PINK FLOYD FANATIC
I think that this ride will be great no matter how tall and how fast it is. Im sure that it will give many thrills and much excitement to its riders. The overall theme of this ride sounds awesome and the name realy spells that out. I think that the purpose of this ride is to out do the phantom. I see this ride as being like the beast,comming at you with tremendous furry and power. This ride will be great!
I think the ride will be great. I think the disappoint is simply the fact that alot people thought it would beat MF and SD for longest drop. If people hadn't been thinking that I think there would be alot more excitement. If another park announced they were building a hyper that would have a 2nd drop of 230ft into a ravine and tunnels most people would be excited about it. I'am still excited about it. I just need to get over the thought of a 300+ ft drop into a ravine. It would have been unbelievable! Ohhh wellll. It STILL should be interesting to see what the rest of the ride will be like and who is building it.
everyone's talking like this is the end of it, but it's not! They'll keep teasing us along and reveal it a little at a time and then hit us with the big one at the end. I have no idea what it may be, but it did occur to me that one cannot plunge us down the hill only once. Who's to say that the third hill may be a 300 footer, or maybe the four, or fifth, or even the last! There's still a lot to be said about this ride and there is a lot of hill side over looking the Monongahala (or however you spell that river's name)
Thanks for the link Gjadam. From that article it sounds like they don't have a final design down yet. Thats interesting, maybe they will decide to add more elements than they are already planning. The 230ft tunnel sounds great!
Kennywood has classic coasters like The Jack Rabbit that has no lapbar, no seatbelt, and no seat-divider and massive airtime. The Aero 360 is one of the best inverting flat-rides I've ever been on (and I've ridden a lot of them). Exterminator is the best dark-ride I've experienced beyond Disneyworld. Noah's Ark is a great walk-through mindtrip. The admission is dirt-cheap. And you call them sad because they're modifying an existing coaster? By the way to answer someone's question, SFO is about an hour-and-a half away. They had brochures for SFDL at my motel also, so I'm guessing that it's pretty close too.
First off, MForce, what makes you say "Kennywood is really sad"? Have you ever been there? Kennywood is a great park, record breaking coaster or no.
Second, I was at the actual Press Conference in Kennywood today, and at first, I thought it was a stupid idea and a horrible stopgap solution to the complains Steel Phantom's been getting.
After I think about it, though... I'm actually getting really hype for next year! I think the ride's going to be great! From what spokespeople and the like were saying at the conference, by the time they're done with it, it'll be as good as a new ride.
I really don't think this is going to be a "lame" ride at all. In fact, from the hints that I picked up on at the conference... well... I think it's gonna be just as intense.
The media didn't touch on some of the most interesting things that I noticed were said. Now, don't etch this in stone, as it could just be a slip of the tongue or a misused word, but I swear I heard Henry Henninger use the term "second lift" during his speech. I'm CERTAINLY not trying to start rumours here (why would I want to do that? Every rumour about Kennywood that's come out in the past 5-6 months has been false, and the person who spread it has ended up looking like a fool), but I swear I heard him say that. It wasn't in the description of the ride anywhere, but then again... that description was scetchy at best.
Let's just sit back, take a deep breath, and wait until the actual plans come out. Then we can gripe.
And then, come next season, we can all ride it and bow to the Phantom's Revenge.
For all you people saying how upset you are I only have one thing to say, STAY HOME NEXT YEAR. It will make the lines shorter for me. I am very happy to hear that very little work will be done on the current first half. As for the rest of the ride I feel it will be good. Kennywood seems to know what they are doing when it comes to thrill rides, they built the Phantom in the first place, so I think they will be able to come through on the new design. Also for all you people complaining, think about this. If you don't have to build a new lift hill or pour more new footers and on and on then that probably leaves you more money to make more track(they did say it will be 200' longer). They seem to be very secretive and have said the final design is not complete yet, although I question that. However there still may be something they are not talking about. I quess we'll have to wait for the Phantom to reveal his secrets when he does.
*** This post was edited by phil on 8/11/2000. ***
I am disappointed with the new ride but I understand the changes. When Kennywood announced that they were getting a new coaster it was supposed to be something completely different and now we find out it is just a redesign. Not that impressive I think the park can do better but because of cost but they never will. If people think it is because of space they own the land to the bridge and to all of the restaurants so they just want to make use of what they have already in place.
The original plans *actually were to build an entirely new coaster*! Do you people not understand that? Henninger said that they had plans to build a whole new coaster and all that jazz, but when they announced that the Steel Phantom would be taken out at the end of the '00 season, the public outcry (from people around Pittsburgh, mind you... in all honesty, I think Kennywood would rather satisfy the Phantom's constituents rather than coaster enthusiasts from San Francisco) was incredible. Nobody really wanted a Kennywood without a Phantom watching over it. So, they're doing what the public wants: Keep the best part, get rid of the (supposed) worst, and make it much better.
I think other parks around the country need to follow suit behind Kennywood: Do what the locals *want*. And why not? They're what make the parks stay alive.
------------- How dare you vanquish the Steel Phantom without his consent? Fear the Phantom's Revenge.
*** This post was edited by Lynch on 8/12/2000. ***