Jumbo Jet at Cedar Point?

Friday, July 21, 2006 7:00 PM
Yeah, the sprial lift was just to save room. If you want to see another example of Schwarzkopf space conservation, take a look at Indiana Beach and the Tigger coaster. The entire thing is on top of a food stand/picnic pavillion!
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Friday, July 21, 2006 11:11 PM
Intamin Fan: The Tigg'r at Indiana Beach really has nothing to do with Schwarkopf as far as space conservation. That is the parks doing because they have to be creative in setting up rides since they have no room. I believe they bought the coaster used.

Whizzer at SFGAm and Tigg'r are great rides IMO. I hope they stick around for awhile.


My favorite MJ tune: "Billie Jean" which I have been listening to alot now. RIP MJ.

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Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:17 PM
The spiral lift with the rotating radar on top really gave the ride a majestic, one-of-a-kind look and made it appear much taller than it actually was.

Just take a look at the modified version in Australia. It just looks plain ordinary and not that impressive.

But back in 1972 when the ride debuted on the german fairs it was the most spectacular thing ever to appear on a fairground. I still have a Super8 film reel from that year which my father took. He seemed to be quite fascinated by it back then.

Actually the spiral lift did not only save space it was as well a booster for capacity (and added to the ride time and the anticipation) The ride could run 8 trains and I remember that it was not unusual to have up to three trains on the lift at the same time.


wiki wiki wiki wiki...ahh shut up!
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Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:14 PM
I'm fairly certain I rode a Jumbo Jet at a fair long long ago, and I dug it bunches. HEY! Either that or the Galaxi that came might be my first credit. There I was giving it to the Python at Busch Tampa all those years and just realized that.
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Sunday, July 23, 2006 7:32 AM
crazy horse's avatar If you would like to own one, there is one for sale.

http://www.italintl.com/detail_page.php?record_id=645


what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:42 AM
Anton's primary market were the European showman. Most fairs are played in town squares and city streets, where space is at a premium. Add to that the showman is charged by the square meter for that space. Thus the need for an attraction that has a high RPH in the least amount of space. Building rides to fit these requirements was something he excelled at.
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Monday, July 24, 2006 11:15 AM
janfrederick's avatar ^^Hmmm...that doesn't look like a Jet Star (Tigg'r). I lost my link to the Shwarzkoph site. Anybody have it? I think it's actually a Jet Star II.

By the way, Jet Star at Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk was also positioned on top of a building (Auto Scooters). It made it infinitely better. What a great ride. I can smell the grease mingling with corn dogs and salt air right now.

*** Edited 7/24/2006 3:17:05 PM UTC by janfrederick***


"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza
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Monday, July 24, 2006 1:24 PM
I remember a radio jingle for CP back in the old days before they went all crazy about big coasters. It began like this:

Cedar Point is the Jumbo Jet and the Giant Wheel in the sky ....


Arthur Bahl

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Monday, July 24, 2006 1:27 PM
^Awwwww, now you went and did it!
Now i've got old park jingles going on...
:)
Kings Islands even better when you do it all
together...
do it all together....

Great Lakes Brewery Patron...

-Mark

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Monday, July 24, 2006 1:44 PM
Just interesting that a relatively small coaster and a Ferris Wheel were two of the signature attractions in the park at that time.

Arthur Bahl

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Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:04 PM
Tigg'r is a Jet Star. The one for sale on the ITAL website has to be a Jet Star II as it has a spiral lift.

Is this the link you are looking for?
http://schwarzkopf.coaster.net/

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Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:27 PM
^thanks for the link. That will make my RCT3 much easier with those pics and stats.

Great Lakes Brewery Patron...

-Mark

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Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:35 PM
janfrederick's avatar ^^ That be the link. Thanks!
"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza
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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:52 PM
Does anyone know for sure where the CP Jumbo jet was relocated to? When I rode the Jumbo Jet at La Feria in Mexico City (1995) I was told that this was the one from CP. Then, it seems like I heard later that it wasn't. Anyone know?

nice Jumbo Jet pic here;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230011636403

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:48 PM
Unfortunately ACE had some bad information and when I printed Guide to Ride 2000 we thought the Jumbo at La Feria was from Cedar Point. We later learned that it is actually the Glissade from Busch Williamsburg.

CP's Jumbo did the fair circuit for a while then supposedly it ended up at Beoland in Russia, although no one has confirmed this.

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:53 PM
I'm not sure the spiral lift was designed to decrease the footprint of the ride. Looking at the modified Jet Star II in Australia, it's obvious the footprint could accomodate a standard lift without any modification. I think it was to get attention, and it probably worked.
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Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:44 PM
janfrederick's avatar Good point. Could also be, as someone pointed out earlier, a way to increase the capacity.

That being said, I remember the Jet Star having multiple cards on the lift at one time.


"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza
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Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:46 PM
The LONG ride up the lift probably did have something to do with being able to run multiple cars without any blocking on the actual ride. Interesting observation.
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Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:25 PM
If you take a look at the Australian version you will notice that the station is not at its usual place, but at the "front" of the ride.

It also appears that the station track is further away from the first groundhugging curve than it is on the other models. So it seems that there was actually more modification done to the layout.

I said before that the lift could accomodate several trains at once and that that was increasing capacity. Of curse this is not true as a chain lift would shorten the ride time and the blocks on the ride stayed the same.


wiki wiki wiki wiki...ahh shut up!
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Friday, July 28, 2006 11:24 AM
I guess that's not a probem for that modified Jet Star II, as the ride seems to have only one (also modified) train!
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