Intamin Wood Track?

Sunday, August 11, 2002 5:46 AM

I know that they came up with a new tracking method but I'm not sure how it differs from your typical wood track.

Has anyone ridden one yet? Whats the track like? How does it ride? I would ask how it holds up but none of their coasters are very old.

I was looking at Intamins site the other day but they didn't tell you anything about it. Just that they have it on there wood coasters.

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 5:58 AM
I would also like to know, the White Cyclone looks awsome!

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 6:27 AM

Well white cyclone is using regular wooden coaster track. Colosso is the only new Intamin wooden coaster using the Intamin plug-n-play wooden track. The plug-n-play is pre-fab laminated wooden track. Intamin takes several wooden slabs aand mash them together to form one large solid wooden piece of track. Intamins says doing the track tthis way makes it many many times stronger then the old style wooden track, also it requires way less up keep then the old style wooden track. I haven't ridden Colosso(missed out the ACE oddessy) but all the reviews of the ride have been great. It is said to have massive massive airtime, and a very very very smooth ride darn near like a steel coaster.

Well shall see next year b/c rumor has it that SF INC has bought a few of these monster woodies and they will be located on the west and east coast (SFMM/SFGadv). SFMM has already started cleaning out the boneyard for the 2003 addition. All the peeps in the know say it will be very tall(225 to 230 feet tall), outragously steep(80+degrees), and one of the longest if not the longest wooden coaster in the world when it opens.

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:34 AM

MikeMir87 said:
I would also like to know, the White Cyclone looks awsome!


It is, but as said before, it uses regular track. It's one of my favorite coasters.

A few more tidbits about the new track that wasn't mentioned in the last post:

Heide park/Intamin (as I assume future parks will do) has given each section of track a number, and given the numbers/specs to a local wood facility. Should a piece need to be replaced, a local shop can mill a new piece in a matter of minutes. Sounds pretty good to me! Also, the new track has new trains using basically the same design as their hypers. It has poly. wheels and spring loaded assemblies to make it smooth.

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:37 PM

The only "problem" I see with this is that a wood coaster is suppose to give a "ruff/out of control" ride not a ride like that of steel coaster. But if that meant CP got one due to low maintenance or whatever then I'm all for it.

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:45 PM

I wonder how SOB would of been if PKI asked Intamin...???

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:47 PM
I didn't think anyone would be dumb enough to build another hyper wood after PKI. Son of beast isnt that great.

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:57 PM
Is Intamin Wooden Track Prefabricated? Does anyone have any pictures of what the pieces look like?
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Sunday, August 11, 2002 1:25 PM

Their new track is pre-fab, as found on Colossus, and Balder set to open next year.

PKIEMPSOB: There has been another wood hyper builr. Colossus is just shy of 200 feet even.

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 1:52 PM
I think the reason SOB isn't so great is not it's size as much as it's so so layout. I really can't say too much about it because I only had one ride on SOB back in 2000.

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 2:03 PM
Colossos rides smooth...too smooth for my tastes. But I also think if a park like CP wants to build a woodie in the future that Intamin is the way to go just because of the lower maintenence requirements.

I'm all for Intamin taking over the *massive* hyper woodie installations, I'm sure they would have done a much higher q job on SOB than the one Paramount ended up with.

That said, the lack of an "out of control" factor will keep Colossos style rides out of my top 10 for the forseeable future, and is a strike against them if they ever *do* decide to build smaller scale woodies and/or twisters.

The unnatural sound of the upstops as the train flies over the hills is something else on that coaster though... :-)

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 2:33 PM

There is a happy medium out there. I remember reading about it in the last issue of First Drop. I think it was the new woodie at WBMW.

It does not have the prefab track, but uses other new structure/track enhancements along with the new trains. So, it has more of an out of control feeling like a good traditional woodie, with the continued smoothness and ease of upkeep of the brand new breed. I would sure like to ride it!!! (It is a Werner Stengal design, RCCA coaster with Intamin trains)

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 6:21 PM

Here are some pics of Collosos:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery988.htm

Here's a close up of the track. It does look different from the usual woodie.

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery988.htm?Picture=14

This coaster looks really awesome. And the fact that Werner Stengel designed it I'm guessing it is. I'm not sure if he's as good with wood as he is steel but as for Collosos it definitely looks like he did a good job.

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 6:51 PM

That really is different and probably smooth as silk........ewwwhh.....not for me...I'm a hard driving woodie fan and need to be throw around a little.

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Monday, August 12, 2002 6:57 AM
Woodies shouldn't be 200+ feet tall, or as smooth as silk. Save that for the steel coasters. Woodies need to be out-of-control and a little rough. Thats just what they are!!!

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Monday, August 12, 2002 7:05 AM

RllrCstrDude187....thanks for the second pic.....confirmed my "suspicions" all along....the main difference with the *new* I-track is that they are using laminated beams instead of the "standard stacked 2x6s".....

I had thought all along that some company would use these, as the cost of LVLs has gone down and down over the past ten years or so....structurally, they provide more strength for the weight, and there's less maintenance due to the fact that you have, for all intents and purposes, 1 piece of lumber instead of 7 layers......sure, initial construction is somewhat more expensive, but it saves a TON of construction time, and replacing a *section* is easier too.....

bill, happier working with computer systems than he EVER was selling building materials....(but I did learn a thing or two)...;)

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Monday, August 12, 2002 7:10 AM

Peabody said:

Heide park/Intamin (as I assume future parks will do) has given each section of track a number, and given the numbers/specs to a local wood facility. Should a piece need to be replaced, a local shop can mill a new piece in a matter of minutes. Sounds pretty good to me!

Maybe this is a reason to build more wooden coasters - its a boost to the local economy! (ok, a strech for sure, but hey, its worth a shot right? ;) )

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Monday, August 12, 2002 7:23 AM

There is a lot more work in maintaining a wooden coaster over a steel coaster. Not sure if its a boost to the local economy, but these "plug and play" coasters would put the parks more at ease when purchasing a wood coaster. If a track section needs to be replace, just that section is replace, not an entire retracking or an entire hill or turn, things like that. As you have seen in most parks, some of the wooden coasters are showing signs of age, and are not being maintained well. If it was easier on the parks to maintain the coaster, then the coasters would give a lot better ride, save money for the park, and more of these rides will appear.

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Monday, August 12, 2002 7:28 AM

With this new type of track and some careful design of track contours and train suspension, it should be possible to engineer in the "out of control feeling" without getting the excessive roughness so common in large woodies.

That said though, there will always be some advantage to moderate size woodies with old or new types of track. Basic physics determines that if a train is going twice as fast it will take twice as long to make a given change in direction at the same G force. This means that twists, turns, drops, etc. will always happen slower on a larger coaster. It's also why a Wild Mouse moving 10-15 MPH can scare us. Much of that out of control feeling is due to things happening suddenly.

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Monday, August 12, 2002 7:40 AM
Jim,

Good info, I never thought of it that way..

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