Intamin accelerator for Tusenfryd, Norway


Mamoosh said:
Been done before, on B&M's three Superman flyers. It's called a Pretzel Loop on those rides.

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1568.htm?picture=19

*** Edited 11/15/2005 6:38:17 AM UTC by Mamoosh***


I'll agree with you if you can show me a pic that looks anything like these:

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/6501/speed143cb.jpg

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/5478/speed137wi.jpg

^ Wow, that does look like it's not even a heartline design (seems like the rolling axis is between the main rails).
Somehow those newer Intamin rockets do have a rougher look to them than their earlier Hypers.
Maybe it's an attempt to get into a different coaster-genre than B&M in order to get a unique profile for Intamin.
I wonder how this will ride though - it looks like it will have a lot of lateral Gs and the Pretzel itself also looks like it could produce 5.5+ vertical Gs depending on the launch speed.


Kanonen, the other "Scandinavian Rocket", also seems to be extremely compact and intense. (I never rode it, but I saw this POV the other day that really made me go.. WTF%$&$%) :)

<edit for gramatik erors> *** Edited 11/16/2005 1:56:07 PM UTC by superman***


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Yeah, the entrance reminds me of a much better designed Togo Twist and Dive element than anything else:

http://www.rcdb.com/ig139.htm?picture=12

And that produces some mind blowing G's, I can only imagine how powerful this full circle 130ft tall one will be since the train will most certainly have to be hauling arse through it to avoid valleying.

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Jomo - of course the B&M and Intamin versions are different...one coaster has flying trains, the other trains on top of the track. So entering the "pretzel loop" has to be different for each ride. Other than that they look identical IMHO.
My thoughts exactly, moosh.

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Intamin track is so sexy.

It's probably been discussed before, but I missed out on why the tubular track rails are painted like in this photo:

http://www.rcdb.com/ig3245.htm?picture=4


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I believe the reason they do that is so that the paint doesn't chip where the wheels run.

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While I don't know for certain, logically I'd have to concur.

Even on coasters where they do paint the entire track (like Hydra's at Dorney), with the constant running of trains, the paint is going to wear off anyway, so why not save the $$ in paint?


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Just seems like a lot of trouble to paint it that way, but makes sense I guess. Is the paint sprayed on, and if so, are the wheel run areas masked off or how do they get it so precise looking?

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I donno...comparing this element to a B&M pretzel loop is like comparing Kumba's zero-g roll to a Shivering Timbers second hill...same shape but completely different things going on...apples to oranges. My vote is for new inversion.

On the paint...I'd say its not to save $$$. Masking that off would cost alot more than just painting the whole thing. Maybe its a issue with the paint wearing onto the wheels and causing problems.

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Well, when GAdv. repainted B:TR yellow (all the way around the rails), there were paint chips all through Nitro's queue for the first month of the season and the paint chipping off the rails looked terrible.

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Mamoosh said:
Jomo - of course the B&M and Intamin versions are different...one coaster has flying trains, the other trains on top of the track. So entering the "pretzel loop" has to be different for each ride. Other than that they look identical IMHO.

Oooh baby, I love it when you debate me ;o)

Guess it depends on how you look at it. Like others have said, seems like twisting in and out will offer a different enough experience and sensation to merit being classified as a new inversion IMHO. Hope someone adds this to the next one built stateside so we all can get a chance to check it out.

What do you think of when you look at the element as a whole?

A pretzel?

There ya go.

The "pretzel loop" has been talked about long before it was ever built. Heck, when we had only seen a vertical loop, people were already thinking about the "pretzel loop" and "can it be done?". Now it has been done and you want to call it something different? I don't think so.

It's a pretzel loop. :P

(edit - technically a pretzel loop is by nature an inverted loop also, but we don't need 2 names for it ;) ) *** Edited 11/16/2005 11:30:51 PM UTC by MrX***

If we're gonna get real technical it's a half-zero-g/loop/half-zero-g...

...but I like Inverted Loop as a title. S:UF's Pretzel Loop actually looks like a pretzel. Speed Monsters looks like, well, an inverted loop.

Regardless, I like it. Speed Monster looks great now that its track is completed too.

I don't know if I'm correct, and if I'm not, forgive me, but where the "stripes" on the running rails are located, isn't that a type of "tape" that Intamin puts on the rails so the trains run on them instead of the actually track, that way they wear down, not chipping the track? I thought I had heard that in the past, but if not, sorry :-(

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Now if you really want to get technical, I wouldn't even call it an inversion. Look at the close ups that were posted, it looks more like the dive on a Windstorm or a Pinfari like Typhoon at Santa's Village than an inversion. I don't see where your feet will be above your head. ;)

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You are correct SFSL_guy. (as far as I know)

The stripes definitely appear to be adhered to the rails AFTER painting. They do have a "grip tape-like" look and feel when you are upclose and seem to be there to protect and prolong the life of the steel.

Who cares about the inversion technicalities. The pretzel-inverted-dive-loop-thing looks cool, and I'll be damned if it doesn't ride cool.

Oh yeah, and I HAVE to make a trip to Scandinavia one of these days...

Thanks for the answer about the rail stripe SFSL_Guy and Mr.X. Tape on the rail makes a lot more sense than the masking off and then painting idea discussed earlier.

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Could we call it half-twist-n-dive, half-immelman....

A twist-n-divelman? :)

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