Indiana Jones Adventure at WDW?

I agree that Rock 'n' Roller Coaster fits into the Studios nicely. Maybe the fit was "forced" but everything worked out well in the end.

It'd be nice to see IJA at the Studios, even if it was the same as the Disneyland version (which seems to share a layout with Dinosaur). I doubt that anyone would care!

Heck, they have three up-and-down spinners in the SAME PARK, so who's to care if two drastically differently-themed motion-base darkrides follow the same path?

-brian, who really really likes IJA, but hasn't been on Dinosaur yet. Perhaps September.

I really don't think this is the issue I mean if they make WDW IJA a differnet theming with a new track layout similar or Tokyo Disney Sea or Disneyland,CA then it's fine in my opinion. As long as it's not similar to Dinosaur. I have'nt been to Disney for over 4 years already and I would like to see something new when I come back instead of the Epic Stunt Show.

Matt.- Sorry if you misunderstood, but I meant to say that the layouts are identical. Of course the movements of the vehicles are different. It'd be silly to think anything differently.

Pay attention to Chernabog on this one, folks. Especially since he found that layout diagram I couldn't find myself.

I'd love to see IJA at MGM, but I don't think it'd really fit, either. It jsut doesn't have the feel of the other rides at the park. Plus... it's too HUGE to fit anywhere comfortably. There's a reason why the queue at DL is 1/4 of a mile straight out of the park.

Michael Darling, at the beginning of this thread you said the Lights, Motors, Action Stunt Show was replacing the IJ show. I don't know if you were meaning that it was going in the same place where the IJ show was, but if you were you are wrong.

The LMA show is in the very back of MGM near Muppet 3D, whereas IJ is in the middle of the park.

Personally, I really like the IJ stunt show, my family has always gone to the show and enjoyed it during our trips to WDW. We were there at the end of March, and saw it twice. Both of the shows played to packed audiences, so that means the show is not losing any popularity. It might be getting a little outdated, but I think they can give it a facelift and add a few new elements.

I definitely don't want a clone though, that is not what WDW is about. It's bad enough getting a Soarin' clone at Epcot.

No, I know where the new show is. I was (formerly) under the impression that the Indy stunt show was closing when the new stunt show opened at the back of the park. Hasn't this part of the thread been beaten into dead horse status already?

As for getting a soarin clone being a "bad" thing... why are you upset about it? It's a great attraction. Since when is getting a quality attraction a bad thing?

As for clones not being what WDW is all about... have you ever BEEN to the Magic Kingdom? Have you ridden any of the rides in fantasy land? Have you ridden haunted mansion? Splash Mountain (near-clone)? Jungle Cruise? Pirates of the Carribbean (close enough)? You're not upset about any of those attractions, are you?

I don't buy the argument that IJA adventure wouldn't fit thematically.

Star Tours does not take you 'Behind the Scenes' (except for the Facade). Neither does ToT, or the Great Movie ride for that matter. They are 'Riding the Movies', for lack of a better phrase. They put you in the middle of the action, the same way the IJA does. I think it'd be a great addition to put next to the stunt show (which is not going away anytime soon, as said before a million times)

Peabody, did you actually ride when the Ice Machine was working? I've never talked to anyone who has, and haven't been able to find any online info. Can you point out where it was on the map linked to earlier?

Nope..never rode it when it was working, but I saw pro-shot video from when it was working. Such a cool idea!

What exactly is/was the ice machine? I didn't get to ride IJA till 2003.

There was a giant ice machine mounted to the roof. (Think a big version of what's in your freezer) WHen Mara fired a "beam" out of her eye in the main, giant room, causing an explosion like she still does,the machine would let huge chunks of ice fall from the ceiling into a hidden "floor drain" thing for it to melt away. This was, of course, to make it look like big chunks of brick falling from the ceiling. A BEAUTIFUL and very powerful effect! It only worked for a few weeks and I think it was taken out due to being too much weight and stress on the building's roof or something similarly sad :(

Like I said, I have a pro-shot video from some TV special, and it was a really cool thing!

That's awesome!

I was disappointed that the projection of the rats on the fog didn't work better, too. Apparently the room where that effect was used to have doors on it but they had to be removed due to fire issues or something. Now the fog doesn't build up as densely.

That's my understanding as well. ONly like 1 out of 10 jeeps get's lucky enough to see the full effect.

I'll be damned....it is the same and here's the proof to compare to Chernabog's link of IJA. Scroll to bottom of page....

http://www.wdwmagic.com/ctx_backstage.htm

I don't have a paid membership so I can't view the pic full size. The funny thing is I don't remember CTX having 2 levels, and the blueprint makes it look so like IJA. Is my memory that bad (I rode in 98) that Dinosaur/CTX has 2 levels like Indy? (In Indy it's so obvious due to the large "mara" room)

Yes. You're getting old, man. ;)

You can't tell on CTX because the scenery is all so close to you when it's not dark. However, I PROMISE you, you're not crazy.

So Dinosaur has two levels? That's strange. Where do you go to the second level?

Load on each attraction happens on the ground level. Immediately after dispatch, the vehicles make a right turn. In IJA, this turn leads to the room with the three doors. In Dinosaur, it's a pretty nondescript hallway. Immediately after the brief straight section of track, the EMVs climb uphill to the second floor. On IJA, you climb upward toward the Mara idol, whereas on Dinosaur you're in the time tunnel with the bright flashing strobes that fade into a starfield effect at the top.

On IJA, you descend back to near ground level after the snake temple room as you head inside the giant Mara skull. On Dinosaur, this is the scene where the Compsagnathus dinosaurs bounce overhead and the pteranodon "swoops" down at your EMV.

There is a final dip during the final scence of each ride,I think. I'm unsure if it's a physical dip or a motion of the EMV's, actually, which is a testament to how amazing this ride system is. In any case, on IJA, you duck below the giant boulder and on Dinosaur, you duck under the felled tree whilst dodging the oncoming meteorite -- if the vortex generator is working.

Nearly every time of the two or so dozen times I rode IJA last summer, the rat projection worked well. I would've like to have seen what the falling ice effect was like, but that system will likely never work again -- if it hasn't been removed entirely.

On Dinosaur, the end meteor effect works intermittently and isn't too convincing -- though I understand the concept was improved in both effectiveness and reliability for Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Crystal Skull at DisneySea. I'd be curious to see, by the way, if that uses the same ride layout as well. I suspect it does.

I don't care,I expect the stunt show to close in like the middle of 2006. To make room for Indy as a E-Ticket Attraction. I don't feel like seeing the stunt show when I come back don't you agree?? I'm sure some people have to feel the same way I do.

I haven't seen the Stunt Show in ages. When I go to MGM, I usually take a spin on the Great Movie Ride (a very underrated Disney darkride) and a few spins on Rock 'n' Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror. I'm excited about the new car stunt show and an Indiana Jones ride would just be the icing on the cake!

Chernabog,

At the end of each ride it is a Physical dip (ramp, actually) augmented by the motion of the EMVs to make it feel more dramatic.

The effect is much better on Indy, though, as it's such a total surprise to go downhill when you didn't know there was a hill there to go down.

On Indy, when you enter the Boulder room, the Jeep moves forward towards the top edge of the downhill ramp and tilts back, so you can't see ahead of you. The entire room around you is actually on a track, and at this point the room (And the Indy animatron) moves away from you to make it FEEL like you are backing up. The boulder is like a meatball on a stick, and at this point it begins moving towards you. At just the right time, when you're sure you're done for, The Jeep descends the ramp as it tilts all the way forward, augmenting the out of control downhill feeling.

Even knowing how it's done that sequence gets me every time. I think it's one of Imagineering's finest illusions.

As for Dinosaur, since the finale room isn't as confined (And, unless I remember wrong, you never 'back up'), the dip down the ramp isn't nearly as exciting. Plus, the Indy boulder is so iconic I think it's a more instant fear (I.e. you don't have to explain to the audience why they should be scared)

Indiana Jones Adventure is a masterpiece, end of story. :)

As for having it as WDW, I'd only want it if they would create a new story or seting for it to be based upon (Japan's Indy is set in South America).

I don't mind cloning of Disney's rides, but I'd feel better about if they change it up a bit and don't make it so that if you've been to WDW, you don't need to go to DL (and vice versa) because you've already been there and done that.

International cloning (TDL or DLP to the stateside parks) is ok by me, as most American tourists haven't been to these parks.