If SFGAM were to get Floorless...

--What ride would you want replaced, if necessary?

I would probably choose get rid of that stupid Space Shuttle America and put in a nice bright colored floorless over in that area.

--What kind of floorless would you prefer, larger (Scream/Medusa), or smaller (Batman:DKnight)?

While I would prefer obviously a larger one, I would be totally content with a smaller version, such as Batman: Dark Knight, I would be ecstatic to have another intense coaster at the park. I think the park would be nice with maybe another cobra roll, or even a park 1st...an immelman, yeah....

--Name?
I've always had a thing for the name Warlock, dunno why, I just think it's cool.

--Colors?
I absolutely love the medusa colors of that yellow/purple combo..something bright and eye-catching!!

--Theme?
Who knows, this is Six Flags, either we get it or we don't. lol.
What are your thoughts...not saying that this is going to happen, but share your thoughts if it WERE to happen.

-Jeff-

Have you ridden BTDK? It's not intense by any stretch of the imagination.

As for what I'd want, I'd love a seven inversion, three train coaster with a height around 160ft and a batwing instead of a cobra roll. Around 4,000ft in length would be nice, too.

Amen Legenday, BTDK isn't intense, it sucks. That ride was the worst case of anticippointment I have ever had.

I think a good seven inverted would be good too, It'd be cool to have straight drop and maybe a huge overbanked turn or a new kind of inversion. 8 c.p.t., minimal midcourse braking, and a killer barrel roll.

My uneducated guess would be a Scredusa, if we were to get a floorless at all. I hope nothing needs to be removed this time around, but if it was completely unavoidable, the Space Shuttle America area would be the first to come to mind.

Why not just go with something totally original like B:KF. It's got a great drop on it, it just lacks the zero-g roll. I say as long as the ride would have a decent drop, some nice air off the block brakes, it's not too short, and it has a zero-g roll... put it in!

Personally, I thought BDK was the second most intense floorless I've ridden (behind B:KF). The first half of the ride is excellent. And though I'd prefer a larger floorless than that at SFGAm, I really have to hope that we don't get a Medusa clone ('cause that ride is just slightly better than "boring").

-Nate
*** Edited 12/12/2003 11:02:23 PM UTC by coasterdude318***

No offense guys but what makes you think they're getting a floorless in 05 at SFGRAM?

We havn't even heard too much about what SF parks are getting in 04 yet(aside from Tornado at SFFT) so maybe we should hold off on it until sometime around july or so when we see track or construction preps going on at any SF parks.

Besides if you guys get something new for 04 at SFGRAM the chances of getting anything big in 05 are greatly reduced.

That's why the thread is - "If SFGAm were to get a Floorless"...

It's been said in the past that Demon stays because nothing could fit there, but I think a smallerish B&M Floorless could fit in well there, with some creativity... Nothing outrageous, but I don't see why it work work... otherwise, I'm not sure where it could go... but I also think a larger floorless would be great, too... it'd round off our collection better than a smaller one, filling the Big Looper gap left by Shockwave's removal.

Demon will not be removed, not for awhile at the least. They've already gotten rid of one of our sit-down loopers, they won't get rid of the other. Batwing, 2005 is our 30th anniversary and Six Flags always gives SFGAm a new coaster every 2-3 years because thats what they gurantee there top parks. As for a floorless, I've still been unfortunate to not be able to experience one yet but it's about time for a new layout. SFGAm should get a brand new floorless, no clones get my raft (S:UF, Deja Vu, V2) But they easily have enough room without tearing down anything. Look at a aerial photo of the park and there is more room than imaginable. Ice Mount Splash though is going to be gone with in the next 2 years because its just sitting there without a cause.

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BATWING FAN SFA said:
No offense guys but what makes you think they're getting a floorless in 05 at SFGRAM?

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I don't believe anyone said SFGAm is getting a floorless in '05. A floorless is simply the most logical (and obvious) next big addition to the park. Certainly you wouldn't argue that SFGAm will never get another big addition, would you? Of course not. Which is why we're simply discussing what we would like to see/what can be expected from a SFGAm floorless, not when we will see it.

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Besides if you guys get something new for 04 at SFGRAM the chances of getting anything big in 05 are greatly reduced.

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Is that why we just got a major new coaster this year and it's looking like we will get at least something next year? Six Flags realizes the importance of its biggest parks, and realizes that additions to those big parks help the corporation in general.

Adix: I agree with you; the thing about "nothing being able to fit where Demon is" is complete BS. That ride is huge and takes up a heck of a lot of space. Getting rid of Demon also frees up area between Eagle and where the Demon is now. That's not to say I want the Demon to go (I think it fills a niche nicely) but that argument is bogus. The plot of land it sits on isn't the widest (and thankfully couldn't fit a Medusa East clone because of that ride's footprint) but the Demon plot of land is *very* long and there's plenty that could easily go there should Demon be removed.

-Nate

Thinking about it, what I think would rock for '05 and '07 is a Big Floorless in in 2005, rounding off our collection... and then an Arrow(or even B&M?) 4D in 2007... collection complete, please insert another quarter... it couldn't really get much better than that for coasters.

Seeing that Six Flags didnt have any cap-ex for this year for major new rides I highly doubt they will be putting a big, shiny, expensive B&M Floorless in the park by 2K5. If they DID, as this is a speculative post, I would love to see a Scream! clone. I thought Scream! had an excellent layout. Now if they can get the slight vibrations worked out you have a really awesome ride.

I would not like to see Demon removed as coasterdude318 stated it does fit the family niche in coasters.

I would also place it in the Space Shuttle America area as it is a dead section of Carousel Plaza.

X Factor

Does SFGAM really need a floorless..................with all these other coasters out here why only limit it to just that. Besides whats soo special about a floorless? Same track, same type inversions. I think SFGAM has a wonderful line-up of coasters and a floorless wont be all that special because i has to other sister coasters around the park that look identical to it (especally if it was a design like BKF). In other words, it wouldnt stand out. How about an aquatrax or a complete circuit launch coaster. Heck they can even get a fairly themed maurer sohne spinning coaster and it would be an awsome addition. It ultimately balls down to the layout of the ride regardless if its floorless or not.

got a quick question.......why do some people refer to a park as "we" "our" and "us"..........am i missing something here??

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BATWING FAN SFA said:
No offense guys but what makes you think they're getting a floorless in 05 at SFGRAM?
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The question I ask is why would you want a floorless? As Coasterbruh said above, the last thing you need up there is another coaster, very similar to, or a combination of Raging Bull, and Batman, but in a floorless config. Big deal. I really like floorless coasters, but the concept is lost after the front seat.

Your line-up at SFGam is sweet. Leave it alone, or add an Intamin. Granted, like THAT'S gonna happen. ;)

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Here's what I'd want with a Floorless at SFGAM....remove no rides at all! Intertwine it with the current rides and midways! I'd put it back near in Orleans near where Power Dive/The Edge used to be and have it all over the place.

Wouldn't it be wonderful on a floorless to see midways and rides below you!

Have Fun!

Paul Drabek

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coasterbruh said:
Does SFGAM really need a floorless..................with all these other coasters out here why only limit it to just that. Besides whats soo special about a floorless? Same track, same type inversions.

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No. IMO, SFGAm doesn't need anything, as the park already has what I think is probably the best coaster collection on the planet. However, as I said above, SFGAm will certainly get a major new ride some day, and a floorless makes the most logical sense. What else would you expect?

The only thing SFGAm "lacks" is a large megalooper, which is exactly the niche a floorless coaster would fill. Nowhere in the park is there a dive loop, and the only cobra roll is on an inverted shuttle. It's not like we currently have a big sitdown looper (like SFGAdv did when they got their big floorless - and that seemed to go over just fine).

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How about an aquatrax or a complete circuit launch coaster.

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The watercoaster would be fine with me, but what unique niche does a complete circuit launch coaster? V2 already has the launch. The rest of the circuit would be loops and turns (which would be similar to a floorless, which you already ruled out).

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got a quick question.......why do some people refer to a park as "we" "our" and "us"..........am i missing something here??

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That's how people frequently discuss their home parks. That's just the way it is.

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nasai said:
The question I ask is why would you want a floorless?...Your line-up at SFGam is sweet. Leave it alone, or add an Intamin. Granted, like THAT'S gonna happen.

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I don't think anyone is really actually hoping for a floorless above all else. It's just that a floorless coaster is the next most obvious addition. You basically answered your own question; I'm sure most people would be more thrilled to have an Intamin, but it's just not going to happen. A floorless, on the other hand, is a pretty logical adition.

-Nate

Yeah, well you guys at SFGAm are going to get Greasy from the sista park PGA... sorry to ruin the surprise. *** Edited 12/14/2003 1:16:31 AM UTC by GoliathKills***

Considering SFGAm got rid of their shuttle loop twelve years ago (and recently got an impulse coaster), I don't think so.

-Nate