I think it's about time we discussed this.....

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...the numbers don't lie. Groups like Truth and Stand, however, they do.

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:)

Don't forget the new 'Debunkify' propaganda. (insert roll eyes smiley)

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5 minutes ago - Second Hand Smoke
In - Second Hand Fat
The Future - Second Hand Stupidity

Seriously, think of how many people a day die because of someone else's stupidity. I say we ban people from society who don't score a certain level on basic IQ tests.

Heck, and that doesn't include all the health related stress issues dealing with stupidity causes in the long run. Stress is the real killer - and I'm dead serious (pun not intended).

I say we ban anything that causes stress. Jobs should be illegal, bills should be outlawed, traffic on the freeway should be abolished. That's the stuff that slowly picks away at you and kills you.

When I was a kid our next door neighbor was a lady who weighed in at around 500 pounds and was a smoker. She lived with her mother and milked disability and welfare for a living. After her mother died she stayed in the house and is still there to this day. She was so big that everyone in the neighborhood called her (and she introduced herself as) 'Beefy' - I swear I'm not making this up!

My parents moved from that house about 6 years ago but still pass through occasionally and sometimes see the old neighbors.

This lady is now in her late 60's/early 70's, still weighs in between 400 and 500 pounds and smokes even though she's on oxygen.

Why is she still alive?

Say it with me - a life of no stress. :)

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*** Edited 7/29/2006 5:10:26 PM UTC by Lord Gonchar***

Lord G: please don't get me started on disability. My oldest daughter has three friends that are drawing disability. They are btwn 19 and 22 yrs old!

They are getting disability because they can't work with others! What kind of crap is that? One of them is collecting 750.00 a month for this! One of them got fired from like 20 jobs (fast food and such) in 2 yrs and that with a letter from a psychiatrist, got her disability.
Insane. (or are we insane for choosing to work and make ends meet?)

I am obese but its not my probleme! I have tried everything known to man to get my size down. It sickens me to know there are people who see a fat person and automaticly say. "Oh what a fatass he probably eats a lot of fast food" Dont judge a book by its cover. I am about 300 puonds but I rarely ever eat fast food. I go to the gym 3 times a week. I am tired of seeing people who can eat like a 4 pound burger and fries and a shake and be as skinny as a leaf! You think we want to hold up the line? Everytime I dont fit I say its ok but most of the time the ride op says "Its ok i can do it" and keeps trying to push it down. I am not saying its there fault i try to ride. But at the parks I go to there is not test seat! And you people who are skinny and pre judge us fat people that all we do is eat? I barely eat! And to the fat people who eat alot and still cry about being fat? Stop eating! I am getting surgery in a few weeks.

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Lord Gonchar said:

Seriously, think of how many people a day die because of someone else's stupidity. I say we ban people from society who don't score a certain level on basic IQ tests.

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Geez, Gonch, I agree with you 100 percent for once. Hope that doesn't stress you out too much.

It's not just dying from other people's stupidity. Just think of all the ways, and all the costs society has to pay to try the make the world as idiot-proof as possible.

Like how many instructions on product packaging. Preparation H is not to be taken orally... Don't iron clothes while wearing them... don't use hair dryer while bathing... and you mean there actually are people who think that plastic bags are suitable toys for children? (Wow, it's the whole set from K-mart-- from greeting card size up to small appliances!)

Even in amusement parks... don't get me started on that. But you don't have to go too far inside the gates, or even into the parking lot to witness several acts of stupidity. I think it's the stupidity (or more like the total unawareness of anything beyond one's self) that holds up lines far more than an overweight person trying to fit into a seat.

Maybe parks should start posting signs "This ride should not be ridden by people with heart conditions, those with back or neck injuries, recent surgery, pregnant women, morons, idiots, and brainless lumps of cell tissue."

Plastic bags make great parchutes for G.I. Joes. :) Seriously, I used to tie plastic bags to my Joes and fling them off the 3rd floor porch (101st aint got $#!+ on me ;)).

BTW: IF we all lived in Gonch's suggested reallity, life would be like a giant MENSA meeting...with fart jokes.* :)
lata, jeremy
* (courtesy The Stephanie Miller Show)

I am so skinny that I have a LOT of room in the seat, even at its tightest setting.

Also, I finnaly go my computer working after 3 weeks. My hard drive, memory, mother board, and power suply all got fryed!!! :(

Lol Gonch, I was thinking today, Although not being home to post that this thread could go into the stupid people realm

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IF we all lived in Gonch's suggested reallity, life would be like a giant MENSA meeting...with fart jokes.*

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Kinda like these forums. ;)

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2Hostyl said:
a giant MENSA meeting...with fart jokes.* :)

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Sounds like heaven to me.

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FLYINGSCOOTER said:
They are getting disability because they can't work with others! What kind of crap is that? One of them is collecting 750.00 a month for this! One of them got fired from like 20 jobs (fast food and such) in 2 yrs and that with a letter from a psychiatrist, got her disability.

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Now THAT disgusts me. One of my best friends is also collecting disability. The difference? She's 36 and confined to a wheelchair with muscular distrophy. She's on disability because she's DISABLED. She's generally pretty upbeat about it, but she'd trade places with either of those girls in a heartbeat. She doesn't WANT to be collecting disability, she doesn't WANT to be relying on her parents at 36, she wants a life. (At least she can joke about it sometimes -- she likes to say that she's probably the only member of our generation that'll collect on Social Security...)

Those two girls should think about THAT sometime, but they won't.
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^ Part of the reason the "permanent underclass" survives like that, is because they grew up with the belief (understanding, knowledge, whatever) that even if they made the effort for a better life, they'd end up no better off than they are collecting their monthly government checks...

Sad, but unfortunately, that's what some of them really believe....how true it is, that's another debate entirely...I think you kinda have to experience something better before you can achieve it for yourself.

What was this topic about again? :)

Permanent erection syndrome? Oh no, that was the thread about not being able to ride flying coasters. ;)

Well I am over weight and I don't like the fact that I pay the same price to get into the park and can't ride the dam rides, now I understand they design rides the way they do, but I don't understand why they don't warn customers in the T.V and magazine adds that after in my case a 5 hour drive and a $49.00 ticket I cant get into the rides. Oh wait they would loss money if they did that, well we loose money to, they should offer half off tickets to people who are not a size 3.

/\ when I first read that, I kind of thought this might turn into the Fastlane thread talking about how much who should pay and what not, but thinking again, you might have something there. Some parks have hight restrictions posted on the site, which I think is a good idea and has become common. Maybe putting "max waist size" (or something along those lines dealing with physical dimensions) up might be a good idea too? Im not overweight or had any trouble on any coaster, but I can see your point. Test seats are a good idea as well and should be used more then they are. But then again, a test seat could save you a few minutes/hours wait, but what good is that after you have already made the trip to the park? (using MF as an example since many people travel just to CP and MF is a top attraction that people seem to have trouble on)) *** Edited 7/31/2006 4:22:02 PM UTC by P18***

Quoted directly from Cedar Point's Website

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Guests of Exceptional Size

All passenger restraint systems, including lap bars, shoulder harnesses and seatbelts, must be positioned, fastened and tightened to allow guests to ride.

Due to rider restraint system requirements, guests of exceptional size may not be accommodated on some of our rides. This may apply, but not be limited to, males who exceed 6'2", and those who exceed 225 pounds, have a 40" waistline or 52" chest or females who exceed 200 pounds or wear size 18 or larger. Each person has different body proportions, so it is impossible to determine exact size and weight.

Our larger guests may experience difficulty on Blue Streak, Chaos, Corkscrew, Disaster Transport, Mantis, maXair, Mean Streak, Millennium Force, Mine Ride, Power Tower, Raptor, Skyhawk,Wave Swinger, Wicked Twister and Top Thrill Dragster.

Maximum recommended weight limits are posted on Camp Snoopy rides, Chaos, Monster, Scrambler, Super Himalaya, Troika, Wave Swinger, RipCord and most Soak City attractions.

You may enter the ride via the exit to ensure the restraints function properly prior to waiting in line. We have test seats at maXair, Millennium Force, Raptor, Skyhawk, Top Thrill Dragster and Wicked Twister.

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And Quoted from SFGAm's website

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RIDE RESTRICTIONS
Our rides and attractions are unique and appropriate for different ages, sizes and heights. Riders should note the height and health restrictions (including pregnancy) posted at the entrance to each ride. These restrictions are set by the ride manufacturer and are strictly enforced. All ride restraint systems (lap bars, shoulder harnesses and seatbelts) must be properly secured in order for a guest to ride. Due to rider restraint systems, certain attractions may not accommodate riders of all sizes.

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The info is there for anyone who cares to look.

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Charles Nungester said:
actually I bet 2.5 people out of a million die each year from second hand fat.

The overweight person who has a stroke driving down the highway. skipps the center line and head ons three cars ect.

It's probably way more than second hand smoke.

Chuck

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Or a fat person having sex passes out on top of a smaller partner and suffocates them.

Yeah, I saw it on CSI. :)

-Tambo

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Lord Gonchar said:

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IF we all lived in Gonch's suggested reallity, life would be like a giant MENSA meeting...with fart jokes.*

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Kinda like these forums. ;)

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Yeah, except most people on here only think they are MENSA members! :)

-Tambo

*** Edited 7/31/2006 8:29:12 PM UTC by tambo***

^ I never joined, what a buncha GEEKS! ;)

^ MENSA or Coasterbuzz? ;)

Thanks 2Hostyl, I guess I never really fished around/had to for that sort of thing. I never knew CP had such detailed information. I guess that kind of defeats the purpose of my idea lol.

Being a part of the bear community (those in the know, know what that means) I tend to be a bit stocky these days. This was my choice in life due to being the super skinny kid most of my childhood and teen years with a sopping wet weight of 145lbs. God only knows how many times I was told the zipper joke. :p

Nowadays I find myself at 6'3 230lbs and love it. I have not had any problems fitting onto any coaster and feel that I would have to put on quite a bit more weight to start having a problem. That being said, my partner is also a large fella' and would never be able to fit into any coaster. So what do we do for amusement park fun? We go to Florida and enjoy the family friendly amusement parks with rides designed for (just about) everyone. We go to Universal Studios and ride every (non coaster) ride in the park without any problems. Disney is the same. While I know that these parks do not offer Coasters for the large set, they do offer concessions for larger people and therefore get our money.

I do agree that the current restraints and seat belt combos could be worked into a better mechanism. How about a 5 point buckle system like on the skyscrapers? Hell even putting the self locking style OTSR's like on flying coasters with room to spare for the big boys?

That being said just wanna give a shout out to DevilDucky from the bears in Va. /wave :)

Also heading to Orlando in Oct for Bearbust and Halloween Horror Nights. Looking for riding partners ;)