Hurricane Irma theme park closures (updated)

Do you have Duke Energy or OUC? The Duke robocall I had said it might be a few days total before they get everyone back online.

I have Duke. Got power back this morning. The new "biggest issue" are entitled dicks who don't want to follow the rules of 4 way stops at intersections without functioning signals.

BrettV said:

entitled dicks who don't want to follow the rules

#wronglyentitledballs

Yes! I've never seen a place where people don't understand the 4-way stop rule. And it happens all of the time in the summer because of thunderstorms.

There was just a conversation about this on the Pittsburgh subreddit. I am honestly not sure if it's entitlement or aloofness.

I was driving down 27 in Davenport today and the lights were out at an intersection. Instead of treating it like a four-way stop the police just put cones down the middle of 27 so all traffic (north or south bound) either continued straight or turned right. The cross street traffic could only turn right and they also placed stop signs on those corners. Found it funny that instead of just letting people figure it out they just blocked the road and told you which way you could go.

People here find traffic circles challenging too. They also use oncoming turn lanes as passing lanes. And then everyone blames it on tourists, when they actually have Florida plates with ORANGE at the bottom.

Might be all the Michigan snow-birds.

In Michigan the actual law doesn't say 4-way stop for non-functioning traffic lights. If you don't see traffic coming, you don't have to stop. If you think you are going to arrive at the intersection before oncoming traffic from another direction, you have the right of way. If 2 or more vehicles arrive at about the same instance, then it becomes yield to the vehicle on your right. Who has right-of-way at a traffic light outage?

I think the most dangerous intersection in our area is a traffic circle.

The traffic circle is a relatively new thing here in Columbus, with many, many popping up in the outlying, nicer suburbs. These towns are spending what seems like a lot of money to convert intersections to them- maybe not having to supply and maintain traffic lights offsets the engineering and construction costs. But some are at huge intersections and it can be a cluster.
A friend knows people who moved here from Britain and sometimes for entertainment they park their car at a nearby circle and watch the wrecks.

Another thing folks down here don't do, take control of an intersection. Growing up in Ohio, I learned that when making a left without a green arrow, you creep up as far as safely possible and wait, and if there are no gaps to make the turn while the light is on green, you essentially "own" the intersection and make the turn after the opposing traffic stops for their red. Folks don't do that here, and will sit for multiple light cycles behind the white line waiting for an opening if it's an intersection that does not have a green arrow.

Central Floridians also don't, as a whole, get out of the way for emergency vehicles either. In Ohio and PA, you would drive into the shoulder or even a yard to let emergency vehicles pass. Here, you're lucky to get someone to slow down.

Yep. Bunch of assholes. :) Of course, in the PNW, they have the opposite problem. People will land at a 4-way stop and they'll all try to wave each other through and no one goes. First in, first out. It's not hard.

Funny you should mention that. We are in Seattle and just got back from a 2 day side trip to Victoria B.C., which has to have the most courteous drivers I've ever seen. To pedestrians, anyway.

Then from an Uber driver came the revelation that there are strict laws.If a driver is caught not yeilding to a pedestrian on a crosswalk its an immediate ticket, and god forbid they ever hit someone because that results in immediate loss of license. it was a pleasure to walk around, for sure.

Jeff said:
Yep. Bunch of assholes. :) Of course, in the PNW, they have the opposite problem. People will land at a 4-way stop and they'll all try to wave each other through and no one goes. First in, first out. It's not hard.

Not always first in/first out in all states. In NC, at a fourway stop the person to the right (first arrival or not) has the right of way. If there's a line up in each lane then it goes to the right in a counter clockwise direction from first arrival.

Not sure why laws on four ways are so different, esp with lifts that aren't flashing.

NC is dumb. They make laws about bathrooms.

No, we got rid of that governor and law (for the most part). First to lose as an incumbent in the states history lol.