How's KK?

So I know SFGAdv has only been open two days to the public, but I was just wondering how it was actually running last weekend. Im going to go down there this weekend, so Im pretty excited!
It will be down about 1/2 of the season.
Current status: UNK

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Well it ran according to some trip reports, it did have some problems though. I believe on Friday they only ran one side (note sure if they used 2 trains or what). At least they had it up for opening day. *** Edited 4/3/2006 8:52:35 PM UTC by Willh51***
I was there yesterday. Kingda ka opened at 12 and shut down at 4:30.I don't know why it was shutdown though.
Because it's an Intamin p.o.s.?
Because it uses technology that isn't perfected for the application it's in?
Because it'll take longer than one year for changes to happen to Six Flags' operational procedure?
Because Intamin got two of the biggest, most well-known parks short of Disney to bite on what amounts to a scam ... now who's dumber, the park that bit when they already had one that didn't work, albeit at a smaller scale, or the park that bit when they already saw the disaster of one that was a similar size?
Debate at will ...

Brett, Resident Launch Whore Anti-Enthusiast (the undiplomatic one)
^on top of those I'd add: It's just KK's way...

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WOW! I just assumed that the "We hate Kingda Ka" flame wars were over. I really have never had a huge issue with it being open or closed, but that is because there are other coasters at Great Adventure that I enjoy far more.

Real men ride wood... coasters that is!
Cedar Point and SFAdv are the most well known parks. What ever happened to Universal and Busch Gardens. I think I'm the only one in my school who knows about SFAdv only because of KK.
Why are people sop against gadv?


It has been running all three opening days. I think thats pretty good considering people were expecting it not to run at all.

The problems with the ride are not the parks fault. I have spoken to a kk ride op myself(hes not a kk ride op anymore).

The main problem they seem to be having is the trains not parking right in the station.

Problems like that are not the fault of the park.

I just don't understand why all the bashing of this park.

We'll also see what happens with this ride. Yesterday Shapiro was at the park checking it out. *** Edited 4/3/2006 10:00:17 PM UTC by majortom1981***

I was there on Saturday and it opened at 10am. I was on the first train out and it ran good I thought.I didn't pay any attention to it after that and I left at 2pm when it down poured so I can't say how it ran after that. I will be happy to get to ride it everytime I go.
Where exactly do either of you see bashing of Great Adventure? There was mention of Six Flags and Cedar Fair corporate offices in there, but the majority of the criticism is directed at the targets that have earned it, Ka and Intamin.

I would never say anything particularly bad about Great Adventure as it is one of my favorite parks, but that has a LOT more to do with Nitro, Medusa and Skull Mountain than it does some overblown, one-trick pony that's poorly engineered, poorly thought-out and breaks down at 4:30 on opening day and this is considered "acceptable" to some ...

Ok, and where exactly is your school? When the majority of the folks at Great Adventure seem to be talking about New York City and Philadelphia, I'd say it's probably got a little bit of name recognition. And anyone in the Ohio Valley who cares about amusement parks has heard of the Point.


Brett, Resident Launch Whore Anti-Enthusiast (the undiplomatic one)
Being from Tampa, I know tons of people from college who would do about anything to visit CP. BGT is great, and IOA is alright, but Cedar Point is in a class of its own.
Edit: you know what else isn't special? People who put things out there that are intended to incite, then delete them before anyone can respond ... *** Edited 4/3/2006 11:53:16 PM UTC by Impulse-ive***

Brett, Resident Launch Whore Anti-Enthusiast (the undiplomatic one)
I was at the park both Friday and Saturday. Kingda Ka was open both days and had some downtime each day. IIRC, It ran 3 trains Friday, and 2 Saturday. Apparently they were having problems with the transfer, so only one side was open throughout the weeknd. I got to ride 3 times (Gold Qbot... Gotta love it!) and I was totally impressed with the ride. That bunny hill actually makes the ride feel more "complete"!

I was totally impressed with Great Adventure this year. Everything was in great shape, and VERY clean. Operations were decent, and all all avaliable trains were running on each ride. Scream Machine ran 3 trains both days, which I don't think I've ever seen!

El Toro looks absolutely Fing NUTS too. I can't wait to go back this summer!

^^Some debates aren't worth picking because I don't care enough to shatter someone's delusional feelings that their park is "special" beyond what they've fabricated in their head.

If you'd like to re-respond, I mostly said this..

Cedar Point in a class of its own? They basically just ripped off popular ideas from parks in their region (mostly SFGAm) including the "ours is bigger than yours" Wicked Twister against SFWOA's S:UE and the "we have one too, so just come here" of MaXair to PKI's Delirium. They're smart business decisions, but CP couldn't dream of having the personality or originality of BGT or IOA. Someone else would have to dream it up for them and then they could rip it off as being bigger and better. Good business, but it doesn't mean I have to believe it's somehow unique, definitive, or imaginative.. Thus, nothing special.

+Danny, yeah, again, prototypical non-conformist with a ;)

You just had me riled up, but my response was basically thus:

You call a park that maintains incredible attendance and a fiercely (sp?) loyal fanbase when it is at least 30 min. from the nearest interstate, 90 min. from the nearest major city, 90 min. from the nearest major airport, and has rock-solid financials in a time when many parks are struggling (not to mention park chains) nothing special? Sorry, you may not like it, but that doesn't mean it's not something special. I can't stand Penn State, but I will admit that their last football season was something special.


Brett, Resident Launch Whore Anti-Enthusiast (the undiplomatic one)
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Wow! "Intamin" and "p.o.s." in the same sentance! At least you can't say that the Arrow's weren't running!
I noted the "good business". I don't dislike Cedar Point at all (I like to offer up opposing views whether or not I believe in them), but many parks have credit of incredible attendance and loyal fanbase for their location and for what they have to offer and they don't have to look around for the latest trend to do it. Now I'll go turn on the latest Fall Out Boy and James Blunt because the radio and MTV have made me believe I'm just a little more eccentric and cool for doing so...

+Danny *** Edited 4/4/2006 3:07:18 AM UTC by +Danny***

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Maybe this will help solve the mystery:

http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kk7qh.jpg

Sabatoge?

*** Edited 4/4/2006 5:24:36 AM UTC by SFoGswim***


Welcome back, red train, how was your ride?!
I started this topic in attempt to find out how it was running. Thank you to all the people who replied to this telling me about how it actually ran last weekend. Why does everyone always have start to bashing other parks / rides during these topics???

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