How Was Your Ride? The Boss...

Monday, November 11, 2002 2:06 PM
I've not had a chance to ride this monster CCI wooden coaster, but I've heard a lot of mixed reviews for it from being one of CCI's best and most intense to one of their worst and roughest. The layout and design look incredible for a coaster of this size from CCI. So, what did you think about it last time you rode? When was it? Did you mind the G-trains?



Monday, November 11, 2002 2:20 PM
The last time I rode was probably a few weeks ago. In any seat but the front, it is probably the roughest ride I have ever been on. (So rough, I think I had bruises afterwards.) In the front, though, it's a different story. It is unbelievably smooth. The restraints on it are probably one of the main causes of the rough-ness. Overall, if it you ride in the front, or maybe second-to-front, the ride is outstanding. Anywhere else in the train, it's outstandingly painful.
Monday, November 11, 2002 2:36 PM
I rode it about 2 years ago, it was fun. It's not too rough.
Monday, November 11, 2002 2:40 PM
I have ridden it every year since it opened, but only at the beginning of the season. It's intense, but I didn't find it rough. I love it! But if it had PTCs, oh man.....

- Peabody

Monday, November 11, 2002 2:46 PM

When I rode this year after the GOCC event at Holiday World, I had afew decent rides.. It was bonejarring, but it was still semi-enjoyable. Now lastyear when I rode in late July, it was damn good! First couple rides weren't great (needed to warm up), but it was giving great airtime in the back, and was glass smooth compared to this year!

It's a good ride, but nothing compared to the two CCI's 3 hours east
Edit: Peabody I totally agree.. If it had PTC's it'd be totally insane!

"Have you ever tried backing out of a drive-through bank?" - George Carlin

*** This post was edited by rOLLocOASt on 11/11/2002. ***

Monday, November 11, 2002 2:50 PM
The last time I rode it was when Richard Rodriguez was doing his marathon on it. I like the ride, but don't love it. It looks better than it actually is IMO. Part of this is definately the trains as I really disslike the G-trains. They shouldn't be used on coasters that have a lot of lateral forces because of their restraints.

It didn't offer as much airtime as I was hoping for. It definately has some, but it looked like there would be more. I also found the double down to be rather tame. There is just to much track between the two drops that negates any violent airtime.

It is intense but I wouldn't call it rough. Think of The Legend when it had G-trains. It wasn't rough but those trains really let you know when there was some serious lateral g-forces.

So in the end, the Boss needs new trains and it doesn't quite deliver what it appears to have.

Monday, November 11, 2002 3:08 PM
All I have to say is OUCH!!!

Art, Art, Art, everyone wants it, some need it, most don't want to pay for it.

Monday, November 11, 2002 3:17 PM
I enjoy it, but only in the front, as others have said. IT's not a coaster you can just sit back and relax in. I don't dare lift my arms for fear of whacking the person next to me.

Wood - Raven
Steel - Millennium Force
Generic, isn't it?

Monday, November 11, 2002 3:35 PM
Hated it! I'm sure it has a lot to do with the trains. I've never actually ridden any ride with GTrains that I actually liked.

WOOD: It does a body good.

Monday, November 11, 2002 3:39 PM
Same for me: Neither Boss or Villian were close to tolerable for me, mostly I suspect because of the G-trains. The other CCI's I've ridden w/ PTC's (GR, BD) and Viper rank quite high on my list.


Monday, November 11, 2002 3:46 PM

Benjih1043 said,

In the front, though, it's a different story.

Yes, in the front it was a good ride. Of the 2 times I rode, once in the front seat and again in the second, the front seat was great and the second seat was REALLY bad. I have never had a good ride on Villain. The G-train design is quite poor IMHO.

Millennium Force - Any other questions?

Monday, November 11, 2002 4:24 PM

At the 2000 Midwest Coaster Blast the Boss was great with just a hint of roughness(lots of power though) , then in 2001 it was tweaked and it was smooth and powerfull. Then when I rode it in Sept. of 2002 it was extremely rough and jack-hammered in places.

Jim Wolgamuth

Monday, November 11, 2002 4:28 PM

As tempermental as some women I know (dodging the slugs that some of the ladies on the board will be throwing at me now). I swear some days this coaster is great while others I can do with out it. I think that I stopped riding it after July this season because it hurt me so much. I think I shrunk about a half inch from my spine being compressed.

Darn you yellow train last seat!!! :)

(In cyberspace no one can hear you scream)

Monday, November 11, 2002 5:16 PM
Well, since Legend was my #1 when it had G-Trains, I'm a big fan of the Boss as it currently runs (and in the back seat at that! :-)

The ride is huge, but it proves that large doesn't mean crap when it comes to wood. The layout is long and varied, the first double dip sequence is outstanding, and the finishing helix has power.

My only real complaint with it is the extremely long walk up to the station, but the ride itself is great. If you're a fan of rough and tumble rides like Legend, the Cyclones, the Hershey Wildcat, Twister, or such you should be right at home on the Boss.

Monday, November 11, 2002 6:44 PM
I too, have yet to ride a coaster with G trains that I've found enjoyable. Bring on PTC, and this would be one awesome ride.

Jim Hansen
Number of coasters ridden: 227

Monday, November 11, 2002 8:25 PM

Well me and my brother flat out loved the Boss. As we loved the Legend with the Gerslauers.

That first double drop/Bunny hop combo may be the most intense ride I have ever ridden, What follows are some huge drops and a magic carpet ending into the final helix.

Boss Rocks, Keep the Gerslauers :)

Chuck, who racked up over 35 rides in one evening and didn't have one bruise despite the ride tossing you everwhere but out! :)

Charles Nungester.
Is it about coasters or friends? I say both!

Monday, November 11, 2002 8:42 PM
I rode it for the first time about 3 weeks ago. Incredible ride, love the use of the natural terrain. And personally the rougher the wood coaster the better, this rides mighty rough. The trains I dont care to much for, though the fronts are neat because they are open, the whole train just looks like a toy. It just doesnt fit with the way the coaster is. Has to be within the top ten wooden coasters on my list!
Monday, November 11, 2002 8:50 PM
I think it's probably one of the roughest CCI coasters I have ridden. I still like the ride just wish it would be smoother. I'm with everyone. If the put PTC trains like (Raven has) on The Boss I think it would be a much better ride :).

9Years working at Valleyfair :)

Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:42 AM
Last year, not a great ride. The layout of the coaster is ok. But the trains constantly vibrated the entire ride. Not so much big jumps, but constant skull rattling vibration that really ruined the ride. The helix, which should be a great part of the ride, is the worst part for the vibrating. I can't see it improving with age.
Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM

I've brought it up before... switch trains between the two woodies at the park. The PTC trains from the Eagle would do wonders for the Boss, while the G-trains would be tolerable on the Eagle (which is basically an out-&-back).

Lack of maintenance was the culprit for bad rides this season imo. The rails were quite rusty from lack of grease, and there were some visible spots of uneven track (especially on the lift).

All that being said, I still like the ride... but it could be better.


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