how much is too much

Monday, June 24, 2002 1:50 PM
When do parks like cp and sfmm decide they have enough coasters or do they feel the need to keep building to compete and atract the gp. besides space limitations and money issues do parks decide they dont need to build any more coasters.I mean at the current rate in less thant ten years we will have a couple parks with 20 or more coasters .not that i have a problem with that.

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I just want to ride as many coasters as posible

*** This post was edited by sfmm15 on 6/24/2002. ***

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Monday, June 24, 2002 1:55 PM

yeah. and?

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Monday, June 24, 2002 1:59 PM
Obviously Kinzel likes coasters as much as we do. Don't question it :)

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Monday, June 24, 2002 2:02 PM
I see nothing wrong with 20 coasters at a park. That means the lines will be shorter if there is more of a variety. Look at CP. Never been there but everyone comments on how short the lines are. Now look at Kennywood....Small park not many choices for coasters. I was there a lot in PR inaugural season. I waited in line about 2 hours at least everytime i went to KW last year. Also Exterminators line was always using the outside queue. I dont know if this year is different but i sure hope so. Everyone i talk to says it is a lot better wait times.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 3:25 PM
The lines are not always short at Cedar Point. I'm sure plenty of us have been there on days where all the "biggies" have a 60+ minute wait. Personally, I consider anything ober 30 minutes to be a long line.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 3:33 PM
What happen then is they start redesigning or adding to their original coasters, removing unificent coasters, or adding new technology to some of their classics.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 3:59 PM
I don't think until its over na hour is a long line, especially for rides you haven't ridden.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 4:11 PM

Don't confuse short lines with quick moving lines. CP has HUGE queues, but they move their lines very efficiently, thus they usually get the best capacity awards. I'd venture to guess that a 45 minute wait on Magnum or Raptor at CP (about 1200 people) would be a 1.5 hour or longer wait on many similar coasters at other parks. CP can get some pretty long lines in July an August, but the good part is that they move! :)

Back to the topic at hand, I don't see there being any limit at 20 or any number approached by a park in the near future. Parks like CP will continue building in an attempt to make guests stay overnight and go a second day. They've already done this to an extent with Soak City, Challenge Park, etc. The more ride there are, the less chance there is that a person can experience them all in one day! :)

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-Matt
2001 Magnum Crew

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Monday, June 24, 2002 7:59 PM

Matt,

Being a CP employee yourself you forgot that one of CPs goals is for the guest to be able to do the whole park in one day. That's one reason they want good numbers.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 8:10 PM

The waits I put in for ST were over an hour all day on a 6-hour operating day....sad that those lines involved a few hundred people....that single-training on busy days is an IRRITATING thing to say the least....

As long as I can ride in a reasonably short time, it's all good...an hour wait in line for MF, when there's well over a thousand people in line, is completely understandable, whereas 250 people should be churned through in 15 minutes on all but shuttles....

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Monday, June 24, 2002 10:32 PM
I don't find a feasible limit as long as they don't just start throwing them in there for the count instead of taking the time and actually building a good coaster...

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Monday, June 24, 2002 10:44 PM
Wha-what? An hour wait for ST?!? I don't mean to question your judgement...but are you SURE? The most I have waited all season is 15 minutes...and I've been there a lot. Even with one train, I cannot see that happening...like ever. If so, I am SO sorry, thats like a big blow to me right there.
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Tuesday, June 25, 2002 6:09 AM
what is st

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I just want to ride as many coasters as posible

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Saturday, June 29, 2002 10:17 AM
Shivering Timbers,sfmm15. I don't know. I think they should get rid of one and put a big one in.

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-Sean Newman
84 coasters in Track Record!! Hypersonic XLC # 100 in July. Waiting for the 305 foot drop tower in 2003. Thank you PKD.

*** This post was edited by SFgadvMAN on 6/29/2002. ***

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Saturday, June 29, 2002 10:37 AM

no lines at CP? Your joking right? Of my 10 visits only once had there been a day where Raptor was less than 1.5hrs and magnum had less than a hour.

Chuck, who thinks Kennywoods lines are consistant about any day you go at 20 minutes except for exterminator

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Charles Nungester
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Saturday, June 29, 2002 3:02 PM
What days are you going on? The one time that I went, there was nothing over 30 minutes (actually for the entire two and a half days I was there).

-l(hittin the parks on the good days)
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Saturday, June 29, 2002 3:37 PM
In my ventures to Cedar Point (3 trips), SFWOA (twice), and PKI (once) I have managed to have walk-ons on almost every ride at every park this year.

I know I got lucky so far...

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*** This post was edited by James K on 6/29/2002. ***

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Saturday, June 29, 2002 3:40 PM
I have something to say about this post, but not too many coasters at one park. Will the height of new coasters ever stop going up? I mean the way height of coasters are drastically going up, will there ever be a limit? If you ask me, they ,may make it a law, stopping coasters from rising above a certain height, but I hope not!
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Saturday, June 29, 2002 3:45 PM
As long as there is a such thing as "coaster wars", parks are going to build coasters, each more innovative and heart-pounding than the last. There really IS no limit, until it just stops.

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Saturday, June 29, 2002 8:05 PM

Rollergator, when did you have to wait over an hour for ST. I'm curious, because I've never waited more than 20 minutes. Especially this year when the longest lines have been during Timbers Fest.

To answer the question of when is enough too much. Well that can never happen. As taste and technology keep changing, it will always be necessary for parks to keep changing their lineups. Any park that stops evolving will soon become stagnant and then die. If (and I mean If) space becomes a problem, then older, less popular rides will need to be removed to make room for newer rides.

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