how long before beast record is beat

Wednesday, March 7, 2001 2:53 PM
How long do you people think it will be before the beast at pki will be beat, length for wood coaster. I am saying soon, with in the next three years. It is amazing a coaster built 25 years ago still holds the length for wood coasters. I say holiday world or michagan adventure will be the ones to beat the record if not by cp. It would be awesome if cp built a wood coaster starting at the begining of the park going down the midway circling the lagoon and coming back the other way. Even though 7,000 some odd feet is amazing with new technology it could be beat, Most people did't think the 300 foot barrier would be beat as soon as it was
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 2:57 PM
I don't think Cedar Point will build something that large. I don't think anyone will in the near future. Home much did Beast cost

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Wednesday, March 7, 2001 3:00 PM
Yup, I can't believe Sonny wasn't built longer than the Beast. Mebbe PKI wanted the Beast to keep that record for advertising purposes.

Also I couldn't understand why another helix or two wasn't added to MF so that it could beat the Beast & the Ultimate. Then SD2K was built & the rest is history...

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1) The Demon - 1988 Vekoma Boomerang
2) The Bush Beast - 1985 KEC Woodie (Clone of PKD's Grizzly)
3) Beastie - 1985 KEC Junior Woodie
4) More steel coasters please!!! Preferably a B&M Masterpiece!
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 3:02 PM
I know kings island saved a lot of money on beast because they used park employees to build it and they design it so they wouldn't have to bulldoze as much. I don't see cp doing a wood coaster that large but you don't know what to expect from cedarpoint.
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 3:09 PM
The Beast cost $4million to build. However as of 1999 PKI estimated that it would cost $8.7 million to re-create it.
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 3:14 PM
I doubt it will ever be broken. No parks are ambitiou enough to build a large woodie, and I doubt they will do that in the future, as steel coasters get more and more advanced and the parks opt for steel over wood...
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 3:21 PM
I doubt that the Beast`s record of length, or even Son of BEast`s record of height and speed will be borken in the next five years. I even doubt they will be broken in the next ten years with all of the problems that Son of BEast has had since it opened.
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 3:30 PM
Remember, The Beast is still the longest coaster in the US. Not only wooden but overall. I don't think anyone will try to beat the length record for awhile. Hopefully, PKI will be the one to beat it. ;)

And coasterz, I don't think lightning hitting SOB's computer, a slightly late opening, and being a little rough would stop any park from trying to beat the record. I hope they don't try to though.
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 3:52 PM
maybe PGA will 2002 is there year of a new woodie
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 4:00 PM
I thought California Screamin' is longer?

What's life if you never get to the Point?
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 4:01 PM
Well, you thought wrong. THe BEast is an incredible 7,400 ft. while California Screamin' is only 6,800ft.
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 4:03 PM
It might be Hurricane. I just went to rcdb and checked and it said that The Beast was longest in US and they weren't positive about the CS length. It has CS listed as 6000'.
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 4:04 PM
I guess not... Thanks Everdred.
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 4:19 PM
Yup. Record in order for all types;

1) Steel Dragon 2000 - 8,133 feet
2) The Ultimate - 7,450 feet
3) The Beast - 7,400 feet
4) California Screamin' - 6,800 feet
5) Millennium Force - 6,595 feet
Wednesday, March 7, 2001 4:24 PM
Well with a motion simulator, you could simulate an 8000' woodie! Oh Boy!

Don't worry, I was only kidding...I hate those things.

Seriously though, now that the heights of coasters are getting ridiculous, the length record would be a lot cheaper to break. But with the economy's slowdown and all, and money lenders tightening their grips, the record will probably hold for a few more years.

PGA??? Seriously doubt it...

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Wednesday, March 7, 2001 4:34 PM
Well, actually, Daidarasaurus is the second longest coaster in the world, ever since the removal of the second station. It's 7693 ft. long.

Oh yeah, and SoB is 7,032 ft., making it longer than California Screamin'. *** This post was edited by Everdred on 3/7/2001. ***
Thursday, March 8, 2001 5:53 AM
I have been saying this for a while now, I think the length record is the only wood record worth breaking. Imigane a woodie with 2 lift hills, the first being an out and back monster, like Shivering Timbers, (about 5000') the second being a twister like Roar. (around 3000')

Please do not correct the lengths of the coasters I posted, I know that they are not the actual lengths, just using them as examples. Thank You

"X" marks the spot in 2001!
Thursday, March 8, 2001 9:14 AM
Soggy, I think that is the best idea for a new coaster I've heard. In fact I'm going to make one tonight on RCT. :)
Friday, March 9, 2001 3:45 AM

coastersrz said:
"The Beast cost $4million to build. However as of 1999 PKI estimated that it would cost $8.7 million to re-create it."

So it's not out of the question. Knott's built Ghost Rider for 15 M + 10M in theming.
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Friday, March 9, 2001 10:53 AM
I think it is out of the question. What park has the land to build a wooden coaster that long, without making it too intense? You have to remember that most of The Beast besides the two lifts are pretty close to ground level which results in less wood and lower prices.

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