Holiday World to expand in 2003


RollerFreak said:

I also disagree with dark rides not drawing people. Even on a slow day a SFSL and IB, wait time for both of their dark rides were 25 minutes.



I'd say if it was a slow day as SFSL and IB the lines should be minimal for the dark rides as well. Unless there is a capicity problem. I'd consider a 25 minute wait long if there was a 5 minute wait for everything else.

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No, sorry Roller Freak I haven't been to CP in July or August.....I only have a season pass and live 40 minutes from the causeway. Other than that, riding the Den with 4 people is like climbing into a VW Beetle with the Browns offensive line, even with the "optional" 4 person seating.....And you would still have to wait a LONG time at a park where you should never wait 20 minutes for that ride. I know, I was there this summer and the 5 minute wait was perfect for the Den. But, any longer than that on a busy Saturday and I'll spend my time on the coasters, slides, Double Shot, and the brillant old log flume and NOT in a long line to shoot animated figures with guns that rarely work.

Other than this: I'm sure other's will agree that a dark ride at HW next season is like putting a beer in front of a devout Muslim during Ramadan. It just ain't gonna happen. Kisses.

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There's nothing like a woodie...

Oooops! Darn it, I said "beer". : )

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There's nothing like a woodie...

Screamscape did say they may add to there water park, which will give me no reason to make me visit this tiny park in the middle of no where.

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Roller Soaker is a whole lot of fun. Very very enjoyable on a hot day. I have rode Super Saturator without the water effects on and it to is a very fun ride.

As for a new ride, how bout an S and S double shot themed as teh firecracker or bottle rocket or something.

Perhaps a Mine Ride or how bout a small looper like Tennessee Tornado.

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All I need is 4.5 million bucks and a half a mile long sliver of land and maybe someone could build me my very own Shivering Timbers. ;)

Patman: You mean the 2 greatest wooden coasters out there aren't reason enough for you to visit? That's fine...one less person in line in front of us.

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Patman stated:


Screamscape did say they may add to there water park, which will give me no reason to make me visit this tiny park in the middle of no where.


There's just no pleasing some people. Guess what Patman, if you are not into quality family parks with two world class wooden coasters, then please do go to your cookie cutter mega parks and leave the quality parks with attentive staff and management to the rest of us. I personally won't miss having you in the lines...I'll get on that much faster.

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Ok, Woody you win. I guess we will be riding your "drop machine or carrousel". Those things just eat the people up! Note the sarcasm.

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So many coasters, so little vacation time....

Anyone else find it odd that people will quickly defend HW (and CP but let's not go there), yet let it be a Six Flags park - everyone jumps in and agrees with them. =/

Anyway, I actually agree with Patman. I wouldn't go almost 750 miles (14 1/2 hours) just for a water park (I'm not into water parks) and 2 woodies...especially when I can head south or west to a so-called "cookie cutter" megapark.

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When you are thinking in terms of raw capacity, you can probably kiss North Pole Adventure out the window:

http://www.sallycorp.com/darkrides/north%20pole%20adventure.htm

Don't believe the Sally numbers, as they are optimistically inflated from what reality holds in practice. The fountain just beyond the entrance replaced by a classic double-decker carousel would obviously be a people-eater in terms of capacity, and give the park the central ride icon, but it's not the kind of move -- in and of itself -- that would bring in the crowds.

The lines at the water park were pretty long when I went back in June, and obviously they've gotten only longer. But what's a high-capacity water ride? A wave pool and a lazy river, and the park already has both. However, maybe they can really amp up the lazy river, lengthen it and add more stunts along the way. You have the Disney lazy rivers that take, literally, more than half an hour to cycle through. After that, what's left high-capacity in terms of water parks? You can have slalom slides, 8 across, or more family raft rides.

The super saturator coaster would be a great addition but all that I've been on are slow capacity four-seaters -- and something tells me blasting sometimes unsuspecting folks from the ride may not be in the Holiday World mindset.

The response to the attendance surge has to be met, though. When the lines are long, suddenly the clean and friendly park doesn't seem so clean and friendly. The park needs people-eaters.

Maybe it's a collection of things -- a carousel, North Pole Adventure, a train around the whole park -- maybe even a new holiday theme area with a few high capacity flats and a signature ride too.

The thing is you dont soak unsuspecting people, if you are anywhere around roller soaker you know you are going to get wet.

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All I need is 4.5 million bucks and a half a mile long sliver of land and maybe someone could build me my very own Shivering Timbers. ;)

If it was in the water park then people should expect/want to get wet. The capacity of one of these may not be what they are looking for.

Perhaps a large Shoot-the-Chutes, those have decent capacity.

A water coaster similar to JTA or Buzz Saw Falls would have better capacity than Roller Soaker/Super Saturator. This is also a possibilty.

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SFGAMDie HARD said:
Well RollerFreak I have yet to see a HIGH capacity interactive dark ride so I don't know how likely that is without super-huge cars but that wouldn't be a bad idea but then again it costs a good amount of money to put in a big dark ride and a decorative building and it's an eyesore when you don't spend the money to make the warehouse good looking. I'm sure HW will make a decision that will please as many as possible!

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I have and its at SDC. Its called the Great Shoot Out in the Flooded Mine and their Boat Trains have 5 cars holding 5 People each for 25 People per train. I belive they run up to 5 boat trains on it.

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