Hercules to be replaced by B&M floorless at Dorney

Posted Thursday, September 4, 2003 4:54 AM | Contributed by Carl Hittner

Hercules roller coaster at Dorney Park and Wildwater Kingdom lifted its last passengers on Labor Day. It will be replaced in two years by a $13 million floorless coaster, South Whitehall Township commissioners were told Wednesday. Designed by Bolliger and Mabillard of Switzerland, the firm that designed the popular Talon coaster, the new ride will be 3,200 feet long.

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:02 AM
Well that's an interesting move. I must say though, I'm not that upset that it will be gone.

And the fact that it will go below ground level 5 times sounds interesting.

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:11 AM
I am in total shock and disbelief. I don't even know what to say other than I am upset. I am one of the few that actually liked this coaster and will definately be sad to see it go. I don't understand why they are taking it down a year before they build the floorless though.

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:12 AM
I can't say I will miss the big H either. I attended Dorneys coaster event earlier this year and actually found Hercules to be running better than the last time I was there. Congrats should be given to whomever had been maintaining the ride. However it doesn't really make sense to spend tons of money to maintain something nobody wants to ride. When I was there the ride was a walk on as usual. I can't wait to see the full specs. on the new beemer. Whatever they are I'm sure it will be a good ride. Looking forward to 05 already.
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Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:15 AM
Damn. Another wooden coaster bites the dust, and one that I never got to ride. Despite the bad rap that Herc got, I still wanted to ride it (I usually take complaints about roughness with a grain of salt, as I have only found one coaster uncomfortably rough). I wish I had known ahead of time that it would be closing this week. Other than the fact that it sounds like the new floorless will have 5 underground tunnels, I'm really not too jazzed about it. I'd rather them get a new wooden coaster, as now the park will have only one.

Normally I don't b**** about new rides, but I absolutely hate hearing about any coaster being dismantled. I can understand Dorney's decision to do this, but it sucks all the same.

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:17 AM
It wasn't a terrible ride if you did the Mean Streak Defensive Ride Posture(TM) (that's holding on and pulling your back off that nasty seat back). It also wasn't a great ride and I doubt it'll be missed.

This new ride will very much cement Dorney as a park with a little of everything, and a lot of quality (in my opinion) at that! A nice mouse, a hyper, one of the best inverters, a great woodie and now a custom floorless.

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:26 AM
And just think, there only record breaking coaster ever,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,gone. I also wish I would have known sooner so I could have gotten more rides out of it this season. Not to nention the fact that they are replacing hercules with a mediocre sized coaster that won't even be up and running for two more seasons. just stupid to me.

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:41 AM
Is this the first "modern" wood coaster removed?

I liked the ride well enough and I think it would be less shocking to me if they replaced it with another woodie. I just can't excited over a steel coaster, especially a B&M. Hercules was at least beautiful to look at. B&M's are eyesores! :)

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:41 AM
I think this is a tragedy, even though hercules gave a rough ride, its ashame we will never see that beautiful famous first drop on that hillside over the lake, ever again. Don't get me wrong a B+M floorless is going to be nice, but i feel like would be better to replace the ride with maybe a GCI woodie, making a terrain coaster lower to the ground, so that they won't have a huge strucutre but a great ride, or maybe an intamin plug and play woodie. I jsut feel like there is now too much steel coasters at dorney and not enough wood, even though thunderhawk is a great ride. Hopefully they will get some more wood down teh road. I just hope they make this floorless as good as talon or if not better then most , because i feel they need to do this to seperate themselves from other parks and hopefully the layout will not be another medusa , scream clone, thats all east coast needs is another clone.

thanks for all the good time hercules you will be missed,

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:51 AM
They should have announced it mid season, they would have upped their attendance and we could have made a special trip for a last ride. Hopefully someone will buy it and we can ride it once again.
Thursday, September 4, 2003 5:58 AM
Wow, this is not a surprising move to me but adding a floorless B&M to a park that already has a B&M Inverted....to me seems well, a little redundant. The track layouts are almost the same with every floorless coaster I have seen and they are very similar to the same elements that you find on an inverted...drop/vertical/dive loop/zero-G/cobra roll/block brake/some sort of other two elements (interlocking, vertical, helix) you know what I am getting at...so hopefully the floorless adds something a little different then the usual same old same old...Hercules is not that bad of ride but taking it down is not going to hurt my feelings...maybe Cedar Fair realizes that guests don't care to be beat up on a ride, and they also look at removing Mean Streak (sorry it's a bad ride *opinnion only)

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:00 AM
I am also pissed about them not announcing this sooner. At least give some of us who like dit some lead time. As far as buying it goes, I would think that it would be hard to buy a terrain coaster but hey ya never know.

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:14 AM
It would be great if they utilised the terrain height difference for the first drop, as Hercules had done. That turn over the lake would work well with a floorless. Hercules was a very impressive looking coaster (I never rode it), so it's sad to see it go for that reason, if nothing else. However, lets not forget the replacement is a B&M and that's cause for celebration; particulalry if it's anything near as good as Kraken.

All the best.

Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:17 AM
Wow! I need someone to pick up my jaw off the desk. This is a double-whammy I did not expect. Based on recent Cedar Fair trends, I would have bet good money that the next coaster at Dorney would have been Intamin. B&M floorless? Woah... that broadsided me!

Yes, it does suck to hear that they will be removing Herc to make room for the new one. As much as I didn't care for Jerkules, it was at least another coaster.

I also agree that Dorney should have at least told the public ahead of time about Herc being closed forever. I would have made a trip up there for one last ride.

Here's to the long wait to 2005!

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:18 AM
The fact that this is being announced now surprises me more than the fact that they are removing Hercules. I do find it disheartning to hear we are losing another woodie, but if one absolutely had to go, Hercules would win my vote. Even riding it in the Mean Streak Defensive Ride Posture(TM), that thing jackhammered so bad it was silly. I wonder if this move will make other parks take a long look at their fledging woodies and decide to do the same.

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:34 AM
maybe this is a sign of the fate of mean streak. he he he.

it is odd they would announce it this late, i would have thought about making the trip accross the state to check out hurc, now it looks like i will be waiting for 2005 to make my dorney visit. same thing with hershey, i was thinking of visiting this year, but since they annouced the new coaster i am going to wait until next year to go.

why do parks make their announcements so early?

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:36 AM
I loved Hercules...I will miss it dearly. I am really pissed that they announced this after it closed not before. I would have loved to get that one last ride in. Sure Hercules was rough but it had a lot of punch to it. I love think Hercules could have had a lot going for it’s self. It had a great first half stating with an awesome trip to the lift hill and an awesome first drop. Although the second half was always a bore (with only a little air in the back few seats). I am just really ticked off, since my last ride was back in July I can't even remember it. Why couldn't they have just given once at least one weekends notice. Come on Dorney Park Upper Management I know you’re reading this...

Also I find it funny that whenever a low rated coaster is taken out everyone stops complaining about how bad the ride was and starting whining about how they are going to miss it.

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Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:39 AM
Ding Dong the witch is dead.
Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:41 AM
Never mind the Shaken Baby Syndrome Shuffle--the ride just plain sucked. It was designed to be good-looking and that's about it. From every POV it was a piece of eye candy, but it compromised all thrill for the sake of those enticing views. I thought the course was great from the station to the top of the lift hill.

As for MS going the same route: Don't count on it. This was DP's call and DP's alone. Not to say it won't happen, but their decision alone is not a factor.


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Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:43 AM
Dumb question time, is there any chance with this rides layout that it can be reloacated.



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