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Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:26 PM

If you go to the main page for SFWoA at SixFlags.com you will see that they ask you to do your part to help SF get the whales.

For all the park has done for us...it's your turn to help them. Write a short letter with your name, city/state, and a description of why you would like them to bring the whales back to Ohio.

http://www.sixflags.com/parks/worldsofadventure/home.asp

Thanks for all your help.:)

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:06 AM
Well, let's see. They killed all of their stingrays and, if I am not mistaking, a walrus. No, I don't think I want them to get whales.
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Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:33 AM

Don't forget an entire salt water tank of fish recently, or so an employee told my wife.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:38 AM

OK Here we go again bashing WoA . First of all, I've never seen any credible evidence that they have killed any of the animals. It's always "A friend of mine who knows somebody at the park said..." When any business changes hands there is going to be a period of adjustment. Employees come and go and there are bound to be some unfortunate circumstances. This is probably why SF waited a year to get the Orcas back. As others state frequently, the park is a business. They are going to do everything they can to keep these very expensive animals healthy.

I think the real reason all you CP'rs don't want the Orcas back is because you want the park to fail. WoA may not be perfect, but it is improving. Just look at what they have done in a few short years. You can't get a better value anywhere. Where else can you ride several world class coasters, see great marine life and water ski shows, and enjoy a recently renovated water park all in one place for a price equal to any other amusement only park??

They have some work to do in areas like employee training, cleanliness, and maintenance, but give them a chance. Rome wasn't built in a day.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:55 AM
I couldn't care less about the whales. If it was up to me, I'd scrap the whole "wild life" side and put rides all around the lake.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:00 AM

I have no problems with the wild life there, IF they have proper facilities and staffing. How much of both did Busch take with them when they left Seaworld is the real question. If Six Flags is currently unable to provide proper care for the animals (something I don't know one way or the other myself), then I CERTAINLY don't want to see them get whales.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:17 AM

jimster, the statement at the bottom of you post is justified that it takes time to improve things, but Six Flags went about it all wrong. They added, and added, and added to the park with rides, but they failed to address the real problems of the park such as employee training, cleanliness, and maintenance.

Just look at some of the smaller parks like Knoebel's and Holiday World. These parks have only a few coasters, and everyone that goes there has a great time because of the friendly atmosphere. Enthusiasts love the parks because of the helpful employees, not just the world class coasters. SF made a mistake in that they addressed improvements in the wrong order. The way they have handled the park in the past few years makes people wonder if it will always be as trashy as it is right now. They have lost a lot of potential returnees by the poor atmosphere and employees.

There is no way that I would want to subject the whales to the kind of negligence I've heard about in the park in regards to the wildlife. Over at GTTP, many people have heard the same stories about the loss of animals, and not just from a friend of a friend.

*** This post was edited by CPgenius on 3/14/2002. ***

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:35 AM

I think they did the right thing adding the rides in the last few seasons. They had to try and get people into the park to get revenue. You can't very well run a comercial that says "Come to Six Flags, we don't have any rides, but our trash cans are empty!!"

If you have any suggestions on how the park can be improved, call, write, or e-mail them. Don't put them down and spread rumors about them just to make you feel better about your home park.

With all the animal rights people running around today, I'm sure we would have seen newspaper stories (or at least editorials) about the "killing spree" going on at WoA.

*** This post was edited by jimster on 3/14/2002. ***

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:43 AM

Whoa, I am not a SFWoA basher. I have commented time and again on the positive inroads they have made. However, if my sources are accurate then whales should not be allowed. I really enjoy animal parks and used to love Sea World, Aurora.

Since I really believe that SF shouldn't have the whales, wouldn't I WANT them to get them? What better way to fail than to let them kill some animals? I want them to concentrate on improving what they have now before they go off in other directions.

Prove to us that you can handle it and then I would be much more in favor of whales being reintroduced. One more thing...animal rights activitists cannot protest what they don't know is going on during the off-season.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:45 AM

SFWOA needs to prove that they can handle large marine animals. They just can't go for something big cause they have the facilities. Does anyone know if the wahles they are getting are the ones that were there before? However the case maybe, moving killer whales around can be risky.

IMO they should start with guppies this year, and if those don't die move up to goldfish and so on. If all goes well they should have their whales by 2017.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:12 AM

Guppies, very funny!

No, they would not be the same whales. Those went with Busch to other Sea World parks. I believe these whales are due to come from a couple of overseas parks. One male and one female whale.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:22 AM
I don't think that SFWOA should get the whales. Further I think they should lose the animals they already have now. I was at the park last year and they kept those poor animals in such deplorable conditions compared to all the other sealife parks I have been to. I have been to quite a few aquariums/sealife parks over the years because diving/snorkeling/sealife is one of my other obsessions next to coasters. I am far from being an animal rights freak like in PETA or something, but I am also against people keeping animals in deplorable conditions. Like everything else in that park, the staff does everything half-arsed and in the animal side it showed.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:42 AM

Just what deplorable conditions were you talking about kick the sky?

As far as I know only one walrus died since SF took over from an infection. SFWoA is bashed about all the improvements they need to make. One of their biggest problems last year was the low attendance on the wildlife side. Now they are trying to improve that problem and they still get bashed. I'm sure the inspectors would notice if the animals were being mistreated. Oh wait, *coaster* enthusiasts know whats best for these animals.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:51 AM
Like I said, I am also a "sealife enthusiast". All the tanks I saw were dirty and not kept up. All the animals I saw were listless and seemed unhealthy. The sharks had much more scaring than is normal for captivity. Maybe SFWOA is bashed because they need to improve. The staff at that park frankly needs a lot of attention. When hiring a staff for a sealife park, a lot of experts need to be hired to train the animals, care for them, and keep things clean. My guess is that the animal side was understaffed last year with experts and had many people working there that didn't know much about caring for sealife.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:06 AM
If you had read the SF site, you would have seen that it says the animals will be 'on loan' to the park. Do you really think the owners of these creatures would agree to this if they hadn't checked out the park and it's employees first? Of course, I'm sure you know more about caring for Orcas than thy do.
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Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:17 AM

Here is a link to where the animals will come from and the complaints of the animal activists.

http://www.idausa.org/alert/currentalerts/sixflags.html

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:17 AM
I don't have confidence in any Six Flags park maintaining wild life. For that matter, I feel the same way about Cedar Point. Coin me traditionalist and conservative, but when handling animals is the question, I feel skeptical about them existing in a park where coaster development is the priority and where nothing is really discussed, released or enthused about the development of wildlife capabilities. Something just really speaks to me in that. Why not leave the animals to the zoos and the coasters and rides to the amusement parks? Hershey's done it right I think, but then Hershey isn't all about the fastest, record-breakingest, highest quantity of coasters in the country. As far as details of Six Flags press release is concerned, it's geared to trying to motivate individuals to support their cause. I would take it with a grain of salt. No records of animals dying at Six Flags parks? Exactly where and how is that type of record required anyway?
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Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:57 AM

But Isn't SFWOA getting a new general manager from SFmarine world? I thought I read that somewhere. Hopefully he will turn the park around.

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:34 AM

i'll be writing a letter against sixflags an mailing it to that address in hopes that they do not send any animals there. And if I had to guess, they probably did kill those animals....or the animals killed themselves because they realized they were part of the worlds worst amusement park :)

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Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:21 AM

Now see medusa, generall trashing of the park does not make you seem credible. I did write and letter this morning and it will be stamped and sent out tomorrow. But, SFWoA is far from the worst amusment park in the world. It is a good park being poorly operated and that starts at the top.

I think a new General Manager couldn't hurt by a GM at one park in a major chain only has so much power. It goes beyond that.

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