have you noticed the amount of breaking on beast

well imo kings island should have atleast kept the skid brakes in the long, covered strait. the fin brakes there are just to sudden

Magnum please go work for WCM then please I beg you save us from the breaking! Racers is really un noticeable. Beastie is a kids ride get over it.

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yes, nobody wants kiddy rides too intense now do they? (my main point is to keep brakes on beastie)

Beastie is a fun ride for kicks. Ya know looking of terror on that drop. Funny faces at the camera. I don't pay attention to brakes on kiddy rides.

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Do you think they will remove the trims on the first hill any time soon. I thought the whole purpse of the reprofile was to take away the trims on the first hill. The first turn can now take higher speeds but the ride still goes slow through there because they havent removed the trim. Does any one think they will remove that trim soon? Possibly before the park opens full time.

My only point about Beastie is that no other Paramount kiddie woodie has them an they are all the exact same coaster sans the tunnel on Beastie.

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ya, i think they will remove the trims on the first drop soon now that they have remodled that turn. so here is how it would be a more enjoyable ride in my opinion. first take the brakes off the drop! next, that first hill after the drop take that brake out also. and in the long, covored strait there should be skid brakes rasther than fin brakes for a less intense braking. then no more brakes untill the second drop, but only those brakes should remain the same because the helix finaly is awesome how it is. and then the last set of brakes in the docking station and that is it. NO MORE BRAKES THAN THAT!!!!!!!!!!!

When I first rode the Beast in about '81 I don't recall feeling nearly as much braking as today, but I knew a lot less about coasters back then.

As I understand it, fixed magnetic brakes don't always have the same exit speed, but they do have much less variation in exit speed than fixed mechanical brakes. It is easy to produce magnetic brakes that are adjustable. There are 2 ways to do it. Either hinge some of the magnets, so they can be swung away when not needed; or adjust the air gap spacing between the magnets on either side of the fin. Intamin uses swing away magnets on their hypers to make it easier to advance the trains into the station, not for truly adjustable braking. Of course variable brakes coast more to install and maintain.

Well again, Not bragginly either. I rode the beast on the very first night it ran in 1979 and the only real difference in breaking was the long shed area didn't slow the train much at all. By june of that year after recieving free passes to come back to the park because the media preview was so nasty in weather and wait time. The brakes were on HARD everywhere.

It don't run much different than it always has, The exception was early last year without the first drop brake. Really the only thing that makes much difference to me is the midcourse brake and how hard it slows the train. Sometimes you can get some great midcourse rides and others you just want to SLEEP THROUGH IT.

The first drop is really noticable in the front of the train but you hardly notice it in the back, Same for the midcourse. The second lift brake really don't hinder the ride much at all.

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The real question is...
Why does the Racer have a brake on the turnaround when Rebel Yell and Thunder Road do not?

Why does Beastie have a brake on the front-end turnaround (over the station) when Ghoster Coaster, Ghoster Coaster, Ghoster Coaster, Zach's Zoomer, and Sea Dragon do not? Of those, the only one that might benefit structurally from such a brake is Zach's Zoomer which has non-articulated cars.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

I just want it running the same way it did two years ago when it had the sled brakes. Those were the best times iv'e rode it. Now the ride isn't much. I haven't rode it when its dark out yet so I dont know but it seems that it wont be as good a night ride either any more. Also, has anyone rode it when it was dark because when I rode it in the day it looked like they might have fixed the lights back there and added more maybe. Anyone know because the last few years it was really cool back there because it was really dark.

i agree, they should have kept the skid brakes and i think that would keep it better, and yes it is still a very good night ride.....i did not notice any more lights in the back....that would be stupid the darkness is what gives the beast its great factor of theme

That is exactly what I was alluding to Dave.

For all intents and purposes they are the same rides.

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The real question is...
Why does the Racer have a brake on the turnaround when Rebel Yell and Thunder Road do not?

Why does Beastie have a brake on the front-end turnaround (over the station) when Ghoster Coaster, Ghoster Coaster, Ghoster Coaster, Zach's Zoomer, and Sea Dragon do not? Of those, the only one that might benefit structurally from such a brake is Zach's Zoomer which has non-articulated cars.The real question is...
Why does the Racer have a brake on the turnaround when Rebel Yell and Thunder Road do not?

Why does Beastie have a brake on the front-end turnaround (over the station) when Ghoster Coaster, Ghoster Coaster, Ghoster Coaster, Zach's Zoomer, and Sea Dragon do not? Of those, the only one that might benefit structurally from such a brake is Zach's Zoomer which has non-articulated cars.

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My answer is that PKI is more paranoid and scared of airtime than the rest of the chain. Also answer this, why is the Drop Zone have such a weak airtime drop? I have been on other freefalls (not talking about turbo drops) that have stronger airtime than Drop Zone. Did PKI put thicker grease in the wheels to slow it down? The Giant Drop @ SFGAm was more intense to me than Drop Zone. Somebody in the know please explain that to me.?
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Drop Zone accelerates more slowly than other freefalls because the car has a lot more surface area.

Beast_rocks, if you got good rides out of The Beast in 2000 with the skid brakes, then you were doing better than me...that year I got some of the slowest rides I can remember on that thing. It was terribly inconsistent with the skid brakes, and I can remember one ride when it was so slow in the "high speed" section between the mid-course brake and the second lift that we on the train had serious doubts about the train's ability to actually make it to the second lift. If the lead car didn't have a chain dog on it (it's not supposed to...) it might not have made it!

--Dave Althoff, Jr.