have you noticed the amount of breaking on beast

Friday, April 25, 2003 7:07 PM
i was riding beast and i noticed massive amounts of breaks, dont get me wrong i love this ride but kings island really needs to let it go atleast down both of the the drops with no breaks. there are breaks down the first drop...on the first hill after the first drop....heavy breaking on the long strait that has the roof...and i also noticed it having breaks on the second drop before that awesome helix finaly. every one i know that has ridden it says almost the same things that i have just said. some people i have talked to had a chance to ride it when it first opened they say it used to fly all the way around the track making for a better ride. i would love to ride it just once with no breaks during the ride
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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:09 PM
OMG It's falling to pieces. They better add some more BRAKES to slow it down and keep it from tearing itself apart.

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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:17 PM
ok maybe more brakes will cost a lot more than just replacing wood and i really dont think they need any more breaks on it!
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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:19 PM
For the love of all that is good in this world. It's BRAKES not Breaks.

If something breaks it falls apart, it's broken.

BRAKES stop things

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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:20 PM
Problem stems from the block violation in 2001 where 2 trains bumped in the rain. PKI decded to change to fins and magnetic Brakes Brakes on the 1st drop were not there duing 1st part of 2002 season. They were deemed needed by wood coaster maintance at the park and magnetic brakes were added. unlike the old breaks the new breaks couldn't be turned down or off as they are magnets. There has been a reprofiled 1st turn out of the tunnel (an improvement) and it runs faster and smoother. In the shed(part with roof) The breaking is the same its just more sudden. With skids the Braking was over a longer period.

Tips for brakes. Ride in back you don't notice cause the train is gaining momentum already. The ride is running better by most peoples standards. The ride is a little less intense.
Daytime does this ride no justice. Nightime will show you the true nature of The Beast.

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*** This post was edited by PKIEMPSOB 4/25/2003 11:22:15 PM ***

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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:21 PM
ok so maybe i am not very smart....but i still think they should take some of the BRAKES off

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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:23 PM
The brakes have always been there, just not magnetic. They are trying to remedy the situation now as the first turn is being heavily reinforced and hopefully the first drop brake can be taken off.

As for the second lift brake, I woudln't want to take the helix without it.

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*** This post was edited by MagnumForce 4/25/2003 11:27:18 PM ***

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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:26 PM
first of all when the ride first opened it only had brakes in the docking station...and yes i agree maybe keep the brakes on the second drop but the one on the first drop is rediculous
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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:34 PM
When it first opened the ride had brakes in the long covered straight away, before the helix, and I bleive on the first drop. The ones on the second hill weren't there to my knowledge.

The long covered straight away was a brake run, built expressly for that purpose. Speculation is that it was originally planned as another block.

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Ah what the hell.....Magnum What?

S:ROS blew me away

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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:37 PM
did u ride it when it first opened? i never had the chance (i was not born yet)
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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:48 PM
Something to be aware of with the magnetic brakes...

The train will always exit the brakes at the same speed, presuming that the train spends enough time in the brakes to reach the selected speed. Thing is, if the train is lightly loaded, it will require less force to get the train slowed down, so hitting the brakes will be a bit like hitting a block wall. A fully loaded train will take longer to slow down in the blocks, so the braking will not be as forceful, but the exit speed will be the same.

The reconstruction of the turn at the bottom of the first drop is allegedly supposed to allow the brakes to be removed from the first drop. Now that the mid-course brake shed is, first of all, no longer a block brake, and second, now requires less brake-footage, I personally think the curve at the top of the third hill should be completely re-designed, make the curve a whole lot bigger, or possibly higher, to re-join the existing layout just uptrack of the trim brake. My thought is that the curve there is the only thing they can logically be protecting with the brakes on the top of the second hill...let's get rid of them! Take that ride down to one set of brakes between the lifts and it would be more fun...

But then, I can only speculate. PKI's wood coaster team is pretty competent. I just wish they could give a faster ride!

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:51 PM
They are competant in almost all categories Dave. Those awful trains on everything and the gross and utter unnecessary braking on Racer and Beastie.

Why can every other Paramount park run their Ghoster Coasters and Racers with no brakes?

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Ah what the hell.....Magnum What?

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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:54 PM
ya you are with me on this one as i can see ride man. i agree there should only be one break in between the lifts. this would keep the ride faster in some sections and keep it an awesome ride. i would just love to fly throught the tracks untouched by brakes
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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:57 PM
where is there breaking on racer?????
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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:57 PM
***braking***
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Friday, April 25, 2003 7:58 PM
Racer is braked on the turnaround.

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Friday, April 25, 2003 8:01 PM
really?? i have not noticed that...well it must not be heavy braking then.
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Friday, April 25, 2003 8:01 PM
Kill's the hops back into the station IMO.

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Ah what the hell.....Magnum What?

S:ROS blew me away

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Friday, April 25, 2003 8:05 PM
yes, kings island should take out all unnecessary braking on all coasters there
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Friday, April 25, 2003 8:07 PM
The Beast's brakes are pretty much neccesary as it tears itself apart without them. I think they are doing the best they can with the Beast right now, the fact that it opened last year with no trims on the first drop sort of proves this.

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Ah what the hell.....Magnum What?

S:ROS blew me away

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