Has your homepark inproved since SF took over?
Vater, that's all well and good about the coaster installations at PKD, but the park is woefully short in a certain department, and that's flats/spinning rides. The last flat they added was Triple-Spin, a Huss Troika, quite possibly one of the most yawn-inducing rides ever created. And they already had a scrambler.
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If you have a problem with clones, the solution is real simple—Stop traveling.
*** This post was edited by Intamin Fan 7/18/2003 1:10:58 AM ***
And anyway, you're preaching to the wrong guy. Flats don't interest me very much. ;)
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-Mike B.
Son of Hulk
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I guess I *should* be happy with the homeparks I have, but if SF were to come in with a nice 10-coaster park.....*sigh*....Guess it's back to Hotlanta at least ONCE more this season....;)
Save yourself from the cesspool that is SFoG. Ugh.
Joe, not very happy with his home park in the south lately, and who misses his home park in the north soooo much more now!
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Top Thrill Dragster -- The most intense, unbelievable, and spectacular fifteen seconds on any coaster, anywhere, ever.
BGT is the best I've got if I want a park with wood....and it gets tired what with four good coasters...
Going to the family reunion in a couple weeks takes me back to GAdv (twice in one season).....talk about cesspools!
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It seems today, that all you see, are violins in movies, and sax on TV....
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A random Mooshter's Dawntionary listing: Frisbeetarianism [n.] the belief that when you die your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck there.
I'm sure the folks at SFDL,or SFKK would be delighted if they ever got some of the rides SFA managed to get,too bad ttthat it just won't or can't happen for some of them.
supermandl34 said:
How many people here remember when it was something else to get a coaster every 5-10 years at your home park and where super happy about that. Seems there are too many complaints about not getting a coaster every year or 2.------------------
Army Rangers lead the way
I agree with you 100 percent. It's all because of this biggest, tallest, fastest crap. Why do all these paerks have to compete like they do? Why can't we just have fun no matter if the coaster is 100 feet of 600 feet?
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Top 3
1-S:RoS @ SFNE
2-Boulder Dash
3-Yankee Cannonball
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Don't ever underestimate the psycho factor in my head
SFNE Dude said:
Why do all these paerks have to compete like they do?
Because of competition. You get a hell of a lot more people in a park if you build the tallest or the fastest coaster.
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"If we knew how safe roller coasters were, we'd lose their thrill" - Daniel Keller
While I dont know the exact history behind Great Adventure, but I do know that the plan for the park was truly incredible. The theming was top notch (Frontier Adventures remains my favorite section due to the fact that some theming still remains) and was compared to Disney. Along with a Wildlife side, the park was really looking good and if the park had succeded instead of going bankrupt (I believe what happened), then I would truly be proud of my homepark.
Now, although the park is definately improving and Six Flags has put in top notch rides that have great reliability (Though Chiller has had its share of problems), you can walk around the park and see the problems.
Rolling Thunder, while it looks nice and the park is making an effort, it still rides horribly. The park insists on not greasing the ride and retracking it resulting in poor ridership. Shade cannot be found in any of the queues and rides like Nitro and Medusa constantly stack, depending on the crews working them. The 25 flat rides we recieved, dont even get me started. Evolution, Time Warp and Pirates Flight were removed, with some of their queues still remaining. Jumpin Jack Flash has just began to run consistantly, and the log flume over by Skull Mountain fails each year to open in the summer months and many other flats are rarely run.
Congo River Rapids never runs at full capacity resulting in huge waits on hot days. The Batman arena remains despite no shows taking place. The paths in the park are cracked and old and desperately need repaving and much of the theming has been ruined due to placement of rides; Medusa in the Frontier Adventures area (Dont give me that Medusa Mine POS story) and Superman in the Boardwalk.
Batman, The Chiller has not run since last year and according to employees, it may not even open this year. The Baboon area of the Safari opened briefly this season and then closed again. Oh and, Nitros Station is just a disaster.
I realize that I am being harsh in pointing out every single flaw with my homepark, but it really is dissapointing to see a park with so much potential go to waste. But the park is definately turn around with the help of Tim Black. I really feel that each year the park gets better and better, and hopefully in a few years I can truly say that I like my home park.
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"AHHH!! Oh wait, we didnt drop yet"
*** This post was edited by Blitzjade 7/18/2003 4:57:08 PM ***
I just think it's stupid that parks like CP and SFMM feel like they have to build a new coaster every year because they don't want to lose their world records.
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Top 3
1-S:RoS @ SFNE
2-Boulder Dash
3-Yankee Cannonball
SFNE Dude said:
Instead of tallest or fastest why not funnest?I just think it's stupid that parks like CP and SFMM feel like they have to build a new coaster every year because they don't want to lose their world records.
Maybe because fastest and tallest is factual and "funnest" is completely based upon opinion?
Why do parks want to break records? Obviously to brag! We all know the biggest, tallest and fastest of anything will draw more people than an average coaster.
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It IS as bad as you think, and they ARE out to get you.
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"I don't need a compass to tell me which way the wind shines."
-Mr. Furious
SFNE Dude said:
I still think it's stupid though. What are they going to do when they reach the limit? Sure TTD looks like a fun coaster but I still rather ride rides like S:RoS, Medusa, and The Hulk. Instead of tallest or fastest why not funnest?I just think it's stupid that parks like CP and SFMM feel like they have to build a new coaster every year because they don't want to lose their world records.
Who said the tallest and the fastest roller coasters can't be fun? Also, how can you compared TTD, a coaster you haven't ridden, to those you have? Nitro looks a lot more fun than Talon, but I had a far better time on Talon.
I think it's stupid when people (like you) think CP and SFMM add coasters to retain their title. Sure, they'd like to keep it, but that is not the reason why they add coasters. It's called competition with area parks, in case you didn't read my earlier post. This big "coaster war" between CP and SFMM is all in your head.
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"If we knew how safe roller coasters were, we'd lose their thrill" - Daniel Keller
*** This post was edited by 3r1c 7/18/2003 4:30:21 PM ***
He has room for both parks in there? That's one mighty big head!
mOOSH
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A random Mooshter's Dawntionary listing: Innoculatte [v.] - to take coffee intraveneously when running late.
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3r1c said:I think it's stupid when people (like you) think CP and SFMM add coasters to retain their title. Sure, they'd like to keep it, but that is not the reason why they add coasters. It's called competition with area parks, in case you didn't read my earlier post. This big "coaster war" between CP and SFMM is all in your head.
It is definatly not a coincidence that CP and MM add a coaster each year. They are fighting over the record! It is definatly not just all in my head.
Sure I haven't ridden TTD but I don't know how it can top rides like S:RoS. When SFNE got S:RoS built they weren't looking for a record breaking ride and guess what? It's continually rated #1 by enthusiests all over the world. I'm not saying that I wouldn't want to ride TTD because I do! I wasn't trying to start controversy I was just giving my opinion.
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Top 3
1-S:RoS @ SFNE
2-Boulder Dash
3-Yankee Cannonball
*** This post was edited by SFNE Dude 7/18/2003 8:29:45 PM ***
SFNE Dude said:
It is definatly not a coincidence that CP and MM add a coaster each year. They are fighting over the record! It is definatly not just all in my head.Sure I haven't ridden TTD but I don't know how it can top rides like S:RoS. When SFNE got S:RoS built they weren't looking for a record breaking ride and guess what? It's continually rated #1 by enthusiests all over the world. I'm not saying that I wouldn't want to ride TTD because I do! I wasn't trying to start controversy I was just giving my opinion.
Did you ever notice Cedar Point began adding roller coaster every year when SF took over Geauga Lake and began adding several coasters and rides? As far as SFMM goes, it's in California where there is major competition (Disneyland, CA, KBF etc.) and they must add a major new attraction every year (or every other) to keep up the competition.
S:RoS did become the tallest and fastest roller coaster on the east coast, and longest, tallest, and fastest in the northeast, so it was easily marketable. They didn't say, "Hey let's build a coaster just for fun!." They built it to bring people into the park. Oh, and guess what? MF, TTD, and X are also continually rated #1 by enthusiasts, and they were all record-breaking rides.
Bottom line: The tallest and the fastest roller coasters can be fun, and parks build them to be the tallest and the fastest so they can bring people into the park.
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"If we knew how safe roller coasters were, we'd lose their thrill" - Daniel Keller
SFMM is definatly not building new coasters every year to compete with Disneyland. They are two completely different parks. I don't care what you say, CP and SFMM are definatly competing over the world record for the most coasters in one park.
When did I ever say that the tallest or fastest coasters aren't fun? I'm not saying that building record breaking rides is a bad thing I'm just saying that they should worry more about making a fun ride that will please guest more instead of a record breaking ride. I'm sure many other enthusiests on this site will agree with me also.
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Top 3
1-S:RoS @ SFNE
2-Boulder Dash
3-Yankee Cannonball
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