I find it funny you say the B&M doesn't look "unique enough" and then recommend something "like Voyage, El Toro, or Goliath @ SFOG or LaRonde." Do you want it unique, or do you want it like those rides? This is of course ignoring all the other coasters in the park.
Lastly, how is anybody here able to ask "how are they going to expand?" Has anyone seen the plans for the park? All we've seen is an artist's rendering, which obviously wouldn't show potential expansion areas.
I have no idea how much wiggle room the site has but even if there is near zero room to expand, Indiana Beach, Blackpool, and several other parks have done well without it. Being in a major tourist area, I doubt we're going to see massive amounts of expansion at the park anyway. If we *are* going to compare this park to IOA, check out how much *they've* added in the years since opening.
Geez, guys. If judging a coaster is impossible before riding it, exactly how hard is it to judge an entire park?
Myrtle beach needed something like that. Gives people more to do when they are in the area.
3 coasters is great to open with. HEck the amusement park that is opening up here on Long Island will only have one coaster so 3 is great to open with. *** Edited 4/12/2007 11:52:31 AM UTC by majortom1981***
New amusement parks are announced all the time, but how many actually get built? I'm not sure of the exact number but I know it is very small. Here we have a new theme park that's going to open with coasters and people are still complaining? "It doesn't have this." "It doesn't have that." "There's no room for expansion." "The theming is dull." Geez... will some of you just shut up already? If you don't like how it sounds, don't go... that means there will be fewer people in line ahead of me when I go. Just don't complain the next time a park closes because you're not embracing a new park that's opening!
I do not understand the negative opinions in this thread at all. All we have so far is one drawing, one small blueprint, and a couple of ride names. How in the world can you question the quality of an entire park based on so little information? Saying the park is lacking attractions when we only know details on TWO of them seems absurd. For all we know they could have a bunch of dark rides or indoor flat rides, but you certainly can't tell without a complete ride line-up.
Now, after an entire, detailed ride and attraction list is announced you still have a negative opinion I'll be the first one there to say that you have every right to say that. But, sheesh, at least wait for the details before making that call.
Oh, and to respond to this quote -- "Nothing about this park screams originality to me." -- did I miss all of the other parks completely themed to music?
- Aaron K
"Hard Rock Park is believed to be getting five roller coasters: 1 B&M, 2 Vekoma and 2 by Premier Rides. What types of roller coasters these are going to be hasn't been said. According to the Sun News, one roller coaster will be called "Maximum RPM!" and another will be called "Midnight Rider". When more specifics become know these roller coasters will be listed here in the normal manner"
Did I miss something?? Because from the looks of it, I can't see where we're getting the idea that the park will open with fewer coasters than those five mentioned.
Wish someone would start talking about IoA expansion, considering the similarities of the two parks...LOL! ;)
One thing I just cannot stand -- and it seems to be happening a lot on this site lately -- is when someone gets attacked for having a negative opinion of a ride before it has been built. Not one person has been able to explain why it's ok to heap tons of praise and salivate over a ride when it's announced, but almost criminal to have a negative reaction to it. Both are judging the ride beforehand but one is fine and the other is not.
I think it's more the wording of it, and the purposefulness of the complaints that makes the difference.
The majority of the time when someone complains about a ride before they've ridden it, it's usually because of
A. They wish the park had gotten something else
B. Some sort of problem with the statistics (It's too short, it has too many loopies, there's not enough loopies, etc) or
C. It's just thinly veiled complaining about the park itself, and not the ride.
Reason A and C are mostly BS, and B is a somewhat vague area. We all have our own subjective tastes, so I see nothing wrong with saying "Eh, announced coaster X looks a bit on the short side to me" or something along those lines as long as you're sensible about it.
Example - I feel free to bitch about Firehawk going to KI because I think it's a crappy ride, and that's not based on having ridden it before, that's based on riding *other* flyers before.
I'm *not* going to bitch about Firehawk going to KI because they "needed a B&M," something we've been hearing about the park since about 1995.
At the end of the day though, I think you need to only expect someone to say "Well you haven't ridden it yet" when you have criticisms of a new coaster. But as long as you're thoughtful and smart about it and can back up what you're saying I don't think you should have too much to worry about.
I myself don't mind early complaints about a ride or park, It doesn't affect most people's views one way or another anyway.
But I have to chuckle to myself when it hits me that someone's "meh, doesn't impress me much" is clearly a thinly veiled complaint about something else that's not being said. Sometimes you can see right through it.
"Meh, doesn't impress me much=Translation= "If their ain't an airtime filled woodie involved, I don't like it".
In that sense, I at least appreciate Pink Floyd Fanatic's refreshing honesty. ;) *** Edited 4/12/2007 9:54:00 PM UTC by DWeaver***
But this park? One that we have seen and heard very little about? I think it's a little too early to be saying anything negative about the place. If anything, enthusiasts should be excited about what those five coasters are going to be. Only after it's discovered that they're a Vekoma Boomerang, SLC and a couple of other clones will be all have a right to complain ;)
Sorry for seeming a little unimpressed as this is supposed to be a BIG TIME project and improvment over the boardwalk.
Perhaps I'll feel different after visiting, Im certainly not ANTI HRP.
I mean again it's about expectations. My expectation is that we're getting park in a location where there was formerly not one.
If they announced "This park will be better than IOA" or something along those lines, it's a different story, but right now it's the enthusiast hype machine that's working harder than any other here.
Just keep your expectations in line and hopefully you won't be disappointed, and may even be pleasantly surprised.
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