Hades testing now??

OMG.... That is the most f'd up sh!t I've ever seen (pardon my french :) ) Either they guy is being held at that angle by cables or thats real!! That looks totally sweet. The train will have to be really movin to do that.

WOW...

Isn't it 91 degrees?

I think so. Check my post on page 14 of the other Hades thread where I explained how I think you can tell. *** Edited 5/4/2005 2:43:37 AM UTC by RavenTTD***

91 degrees is an inversion... right? ;)

nope it has to go a full 180 degrees to be an inversion. Millennium Force has overbanking of 122 degrees so this is a ways from that. *** Edited 5/4/2005 4:41:45 AM UTC by Godsentone***

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Neuski said:
91 degrees is an inversion... right?

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Evil! :)

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Godsentone said:
nope it has to go a full 180 degrees to be an inversion. Millennium Force has overbanking of 122 degrees so this is a ways from that.

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Not agreeing or disagreeing, just noting a fact here:

There's a coaster right across the midway from MF that has an inclined loop that doesn't go a full 180 degrees, yet the park calls it an inversion.

The bottom line? Enthusiasts have a weird need to classify. Like the number of licks to the center of a Tootsie Pop, the world may never know exactly where an overbank becomes an inversion. :)

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More on topic, it looks like I picked a good year to plan a trip that stops by the Dells. :)

*** Edited 5/4/2005 5:21:44 AM UTC by Lord Gonchar***

IMHO if the imaginary line that runs perpendicular to the rails passes 90* it is an inversion, regardless of what/how parks categorize it.

YMMV, of course.

Oh boy, I get to argue this again!!!!

If my feet are over my head in a horizontal plane, I am inverted..... and NO....there aren't any references to Amyl Nitrate in this equation. ;)

there aren't any references to Amyl Nitrate in this equation.

That makes me fume! ;)

I tend to agree, Moosh.

There seems to be two distinct camps on this one.

#1 believes your feet must be on a vertical plane above your head as your head faces the earth and your feet point skyward.

#2 believes the vertical alignment of head and feet is irrelevant and that once the feet are on a higher horizontal plane that the inversion is achieved. This happens at anything over 90*

Of course a smart-ass could argue that someone flexible could sit on the ground and while keeping their torso upright, raise their feet above their head and according to group #2 they'd be inverted.

To which I would retort, "No, that just makes them a good friend of Moosh" ;)

I only classify it as an inversion the same way I classify coasters: If the park &/or the Mfg. classify it as such :). Makes things easier for me personally.

Though, technically speaking, this is an inversion.

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Lord Gonchar said:
There seems to be two distinct camps on this one.

#1 believes your feet must be on a vertical plane above your head as your head faces the earth and your feet point skyward.

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But, as mentioned, that means an inclined loop is NOT an inversion, and I really DO have a hard time calling that *non-inverted*...

Of course, overbanks (MF, SB, Freeze, and now a wooden(!) overbank)...for me they're harder to classify....so I don't...:)

Does that make me a bad enthusiast? Thought so...;)

*** Edited 5/4/2005 6:14:48 AM UTC by rollergator***

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Gator said:
But, as mentioned, that means an inclined loop is NOT an inversion, and I really DO have a hard time calling that *non-inverted*...

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Exactly my point as related to my reply to Godsentone's comment.

Sounds like you're sort of like me - it gets to a point before 180* where you're clearly inverted, but as for the grey area between 90* and that point - who cares! Enjoy it.

It goes back to the enthusiast's almost OCD-like need to classify. Sometimes I don't get it. The bottom line is that this turn on Hades is going to be something crazy regardless of how you label it.

Im moving to HELL!

drool

Chuck

Yeah....seriously. This is either going to be the greatest coaster ever built, or the biggest disaster ever built.

Ok, what's the quickest way to get to the Dell's from CT? ;) *** Edited 5/4/2005 11:55:03 AM UTC by matt.***

Wow!!! I haven't been this excited for a new coaster since the Timber Wolf back in 1989 when I became a certified coaster nut. That turn--it's almost a shame you won't be able to see it. I wonder how that's gonna feel. :)

*Slams head against the desk* ON the talk of inversions, would someone get me a definition of an inversion? I know nothing right now, I won't be able to sleep! :) I really think this coaster will turn out to be a hit!

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=inversion

3 : HOMOSEXUALITY

After seeing pics of Hell, I mean Hades, I have this to say. I love the way steel coasters ride, but, look at how much more beautiful this wood structure is over any steel one.

Huh? What? Better than steel?

-CO

*** Edited 5/4/2005 1:39:56 PM UTC by CoastaPlaya***

It's not an inversion if there are lap bars and you can convince the insurance companies that it is an overbank. Stop trying to argue yourselves into OTSR's...not that MtOTP has insurance or anything. ;)