Gwazi Dueling Petition

Saturday, March 9, 2002 4:40 AM

As most of you know, Gwazi isn't dueling anymore. If you ask them to, they will if they are nice. A lot of people feel that this ruins the whole purpose of the coaster. So, some people have gotten together to make a petition, and here it is! Please take the time out to fill out this form if you wish for the reason this coaster was made to be restored!

http://www.webpetitions.com/cgi-bin/print_petition.cgi?328217752

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"...they came like a winged curse. A twin plague of demonic dragons!" - Dueling Dragons
http://www.rollercoasterfreaks.com/

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 5:17 AM

Last time I was there, Gwazi was dueling the whole day when nobody asked. They just did it. Also, I don't really find the dueling experience that effective on this ride, so how does it really change it. I know you might not agree but I dont think this is a good ride either way, dueling or not. So what good will this petition really do? If you can ask nicely and they will do it, then why do we need a petition?

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Lake Compounce: New England's Holiday World

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 6:59 AM

I can't understand how some people have the time to complain over a racing coaster that doesn't race anymore. A petition? Gimme a break. This petition was obviously started by some moron who thinks a petition will do any good. If the park doesn't duel the ride, they probably have a good reason. I can't believe how snotty some people are... "My ride doesn't duel! We must take action! It is an injustice to all!"

Ok, I'm done, where's the next dumb thing I can rant about?

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes MCS
"Thank You Jeff Putz"

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 7:09 AM
I signed it. Even though I've never ridden it I think that all racing/dualing coasters should do what they're made for.

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It's his turn to feast, when you ride the Son of Beast.

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 7:17 AM

If you're going to make a petition, get it with pen and paper. Nobody cares about e-petitions, especially companies.

Anyways, they usually will duel it if you ask nicely. Calling BGT foolish for not dueling is not being nice. If you want it to duel when you are there, just ask a ride-op nicely.

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Yatta!
Hey, look, I have a signature now! Even if it is only Yatta...

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 7:27 AM
I agree with TrBiggar. The park will not take this seriously, especially when the maker doesn't know enough to capitalize the word "I."
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Saturday, March 9, 2002 7:44 AM
Although I am not so confident that this petition will actually improve anything, I do believe it is something we have the right to be concerned about. Just think of all the designing that goes into a dueling coaster...making sure they cross at certain areas at a certain times and such. It boggles my mind how the park would plan something this cool, and never take advantage of it.
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Kara
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Saturday, March 9, 2002 7:54 AM

Agreed! Part ONE of the racing/dueling thing is the extra capacity (that's one SFKK and SFGAdv seem to have forgotten, running only one side - thank goodness BGT doesn't do THAT). Part two is the improved "ride experience"...that's why LR and DD leave the lift together, so the trains/riders interact (remember, that's why park started in the first place). Part three often gets lost here, 'cause we are RIDERS....lots of the non-riding, park-going crowd enjoy WATCHING the coasters. I know, it seems a bit...extreme, not riding and all, but there really are a LOT of these folks. Dueling/racing coasters are simply more interesting to look at, as well as ride....

Long story short, I don't know if it will help at all, but I'll sure sign...not that I won't ask politely for a nice duel on the 21st...

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 12:00 PM

I don't understand this petition nonsense that some of the kids like to start all of the time. These places aren't run by elected officials. They aren't school boards or city councils. These are businesses. Businesses do what they want in the context of their ability to maintain revenue. A petition doesn't mean anything.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 12:10 PM
I partially agree with a lot of things said here. Personally, I think you can be concerned if you want to, and you should express your thoughts to the park. However, it takes 20 seconds to type and click and sign an online petition. The best thing to do is to write a nice snail-mail letter to the park. Not a hate letter. Write a letter complimenting them and expressing how much you enjoy the park. Then tell them you think Gwazi should be dueled more often and that it would improve the experience for guests. That is a way to get yourself heard more.

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|| Jonathan Hawkins ||
http://www.starcoasters.com
http://www.thrillspot.com

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 12:30 PM
Keep in mind that I didn't start the petition...just spread it around b/c some people think that it will be effective.

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 12:32 PM
For some reason I don't think that adults see the importance of simple things like this. With a great marketing campaign. BGT can bring is BIG people for this ride. I know that it's a buisness, and it is important to keep up renevue. But I also know that I wouldn't ride it NEARLY as much if I went to the park, because it's not racing/dueling. This ride is truely a work of art, all rides are, but this is special. Adults need to think a simple way, and look at everything in a different perspective. You might learn a lot ;)

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It's his turn to feast, when you ride the Son of Beast.

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 12:34 PM
I'm 16, hardly an adult by most standards. And I still think it's a moronic idea to start a petition to get some precious roller coaster to duel.

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes MCS
"Thank You Jeff Putz"

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 1:14 PM
Hell, if Busch Gardens doesn't want their coaster to duel anymore (which is what it was designed to do - at great cost), there's nothing I can do about it.
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Saturday, March 9, 2002 1:17 PM

I am 14, not an adult(well I at least don't think I am) PKI Fanatic, but I really dont see the "specialness" of Gwazi. Now say Dueling Dragons stopped dueling, well then I would see the "non-specialness" but the dueling on Gwazi isn't really that effective. The fly-bys did nothing for me. Aesthetically, Gwazi is a master piece but in the dueling sense it is not. To your statement about if you went to the park you wouldn't ride it as much if it wasn't dueling, when I went to the park last Friday I rode each one once(I thought Tiger was better) even though they were dueling. Give me Boulder Dash any day over either of those rides even if they are dueling. After Python, these were my least favorite rides in the park.

Finally;), could you clarify exactly what you mean by the childish "simple way", you were sort of rambling. What did you mean? Are you saying that adults should just think that it should always be dueling because it was meant to and is only really complete if it is or what? Thanks :)

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Lake Compounce: New England's Holiday World

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 1:18 PM
I agree with Jeff, there's probably a good reason for it. I'm sure the park isn't just sitting on their hands, trying to piss people off. From what I understand, they can't even get one side dispatched correctly.

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Have you ever considered that maybe it's not the park that's the problem, but YOU?

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 4:51 PM

Ditto:

Although I may not be as eduacted as most adults or know as much about the amusement buisness industry, I still have a good idea of what goes on. In my last post, yes I was rambling in a childish way. A way 6 year old would not me; myself being the same age as you 14. I was mad because of the adults responses. The reason I was mad is do we have the right to petition. Whether or not it being the government, not in this case, but we still have the right. I think that if this is the form that some one wanted to work with this issue, then well good for it. If it's for a cause I believe in, I'll sign it. Just like anything else.

I'm also very upset on how some of the adults on this site seem to look at everything so exact. . You would think that adults think things through, but are they thinking them through correctly?What do other people want?.the park might do something the people don't want, it may bring in less customers, they could always change Hopefully in this cause not so. I think if they dueled the trains, the capacity could still stay high. what they should really do to keep capacity up is check seatbelts and restraints at the same time. It all depends. It seems to me that the park is just too lazy to train their ride ops to acheive this efficiently.

And yes, I feel that a ride that was meant to be dueling should be dueling because that's what it's made for. You don't use a philip's head screw driver to do a flat head's job. It's all a matter of perspective. I know I've looked into the adults point of veiw. I don't understand it, but it seems to me that we have a few adults that need to look back at their perspective as a teen, like myself.

Charlie Weingartner

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It's his turn to feast, when you ride the Son of Beast.

*** This post was edited by PkI FaNaTiC on 3/9/2002. ***

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 4:56 PM
I think once you get closer to adulthood, you realize how trivial some of the things you used to do, really are.

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes MCS
"Thank You Jeff Putz"

*** This post was edited by Zero-G on 3/9/2002. ***

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 5:02 PM
Life is a risk, one you gotta take. Whether in the future you regret it or not. I've never regreted anything I've done. And I've done some dumb stuff!

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It's his turn to feast, when you ride the Son of Beast.

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Saturday, March 9, 2002 5:42 PM

On the lighter side, the park has about as much interest trying to market the dueling aspect of Gwazi as PKI would with the laps of FoF or the paint job on Racer...the GP just don't really show an interest in this kind of stuff.

But then again, I'll wager that the lines for FoF increased considerably once guests realized what a gem the ride had become (like diamonds from coal, so to speak, at least IMO). And really, a one-check operation would allow them to duel again....they really DID stop because of the complaints about astronomical wait times - a truly valid complaint. That, and putting the fastest ride-ops on Gwazi, (since the Beemers really DO kinda run themselves with the easy load/unload), and it would be better for everyone!

And really, what is wrong with the petition concept...it's basically the same thing as a bunch of e-mails at once about the same topic. No, it won't force BGT to do anything, but it may encourage them to consider their options....

final note: I did suggest some "rewording" to a less acidic, more "professional" tone...

*** This post was edited by rollergator on 3/9/2002. ***

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