Great Coasters Intl---we need a new category!

Thursday, November 1, 2001 9:36 AM
If anyone has been so lucky to ride one of there masterpieces, you will see what i mean!  They have redined the definition of wooden twister.  With beautiful high banked turns, turning drops and nearly a piece of straight track in the design.  I would think some rides formerly known as twisters (ex cyclone clones) should be categorized figure 8 or crossover coasters as they are a different breed than this new generation of twiser.
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Thursday, November 1, 2001 9:41 AM
I'm all with you on this!  GCI is simply the greatest.  Sorry guys, but I think that CCI really sucks.  GCI all the way!
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Thursday, November 1, 2001 10:16 AM

Coaster131 said:
Sorry guys, but I think that CCI really sucks. 

They why did they build 6 of the top ten wooden coasters?
You're entitled to your opinion, but don't bash a great family company such as CCI.

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Thursday, November 1, 2001 10:30 AM
The only GCI I've been on is Roar at SFA, and I thought it was tops. I actually like lots of crazy fast turns, more so than I like airtime in most cases.

However, to say "CCI sucks" is just kind of silly and pointless without demonstrating why. Legend, Raven, Timbers and Villain are easily the best wood coasters I've found.

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Thursday, November 1, 2001 10:39 AM
Anyone who says CCI sucks has obviously never ridden Legend.
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Thursday, November 1, 2001 10:51 AM
Wow - I can't imagine why you'd think CCI sucks, but to each his own.  I think they both rule.
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Thursday, November 1, 2001 10:52 AM
It is allowed to like more then one coaster company. The quality of CCI doesn't depend on the quality of GCI.

I have yet to get the chance to ride a GCI but I am sure looking forward to it. From what I hear, both GCI and CCI seem to do no wrong!

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*** This post was edited by millrace on 11/1/2001. ***

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Thursday, November 1, 2001 11:33 AM

Jeff said:
"The only GCI I've been on is Roar at SFA, and I thought it was tops. I actually like lots of crazy fast turns, more so than I like airtime in most cases."

So does that mean that you're *not* an airtime whore? ;)

I love twisters as well and have been on all the GCI *designs* (but not Roar-west). I thought all of them were great rides and they all are in my top eleven (Wildcat being eleven). That being said, CCI is also cool (Legend, Raven, Cyclops, Boss heck even Twisted sisters were cool).
lata,
jeremy

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Thursday, November 1, 2001 11:44 AM
GCI DOES make an excellent compact wooden twister (I've been on Roar-East and Gwazi).  Easy to tell that Boodley is an enthusiast first and a designer second.  Lightning Racer, with the Millenium Flyer trains, is an absolute MUST for the next coasting year.  To say that CCI sucks, however, is totally ridiculous nonsense, IMO...Maybe Fetterman and GCI should join forces---wait, that was a different thread...;~)!
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Thursday, November 1, 2001 11:45 AM

It is sad to see that SUPER7 started a good thread here about re-classification, and it became a GCI-CCI flame thread.

Regarding the original post, classic twisters are merley twisting out-n-backs, whereas these newer wooden twisters are twisted in all directions. I would agree that there should be a distinction made. Coney Island Cyclone= Figure8 Twister. Or Ghostrider (CCI) = Mega Twister.

Or SFMM Psyclone = Big huge pile of cow dung. Sorry, had to throw that in! : )

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Thursday, November 1, 2001 11:50 AM
I am another who has ridden all of GCI's creations except for Roar-West.

I think theirs are very good coaters, especially if you like twists and turns and laterals more than drops. Of their designs, I would rate Wildcat my favorite and Roar(SFA) my least favorite (though that could simply because I was having a very bad day at SFA when I rode it).

That is not to take away from CCI though. I have only ridden two of their designs (Dutch Wonderland's Sky Princess and Morey's Great White) and I was impressed by both... Great White is just a fun coaster with a great location (especially at night... that Atlantic looks very ominous from the top of the lift hill during full moon) and Sky Princess, while smaller than most, is an incredibly fun coaster for its sice.

However, as far as favorite types go... give me a Schmeck designed coaster over any of the others (Pheonix is in a class by its self, Dorney's little Thunderhawk is fun, and Hershey's Comet may not be the biggest, fastest, or longest, but it is still my sentimental favorite).

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Thursday, November 1, 2001 12:06 PM
I would have to agree with you on GCI is great.  Wildcat at Hershey is easily the number 2 wooden coaster i've ridden(under the beast of course).  and all though some CCIs i've rode have been bad, some have also been very good. 
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Thursday, November 1, 2001 12:14 PM


SLFAKE said:

I have only ridden two of their designs (Dutch Wonderland's Sky Princess and Morey's Great White) and I was impressed by both... Great White is just a fun coaster with a great location (especially at night... that Atlantic looks very ominous from the top of the lift hill during full moon) and Sky Princess, while smaller than most, is an incredibly fun coaster for its sice.

However, as far as favorite types go... give me a Schmeck designed coaster over any of the others (Pheonix is in a class by its self, Dorney's little Thunderhawk is fun, and Hershey's Comet may not be the biggest, fastest, or longest, but it is still my sentimental favorite).


Not to take anything away from your opinion, but I think you'd change your tune as soon as you ride a few top notch CCI's.  Great White is actually one of the worst CCI's I've come across. 
Biggest opinion swayers would be:
Legend, Timbers, Boss, Cornball, BoulderDash, Rampage, and GhostRider I'd say.

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Thursday, November 1, 2001 12:41 PM
Philadelphia Tobaggan Comany All the WAY!!!!!
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Thursday, November 1, 2001 1:08 PM
Why do some people say they like something only when they can conversely hate something else as much? Does this make any sense?

Okay, so you love GCI coasters... the only one I've ridden is Hersheypark's Wildcat, I think it's some of the best wood out there.

See?  Add to the discussion, without bashing something else.  It's that easy.

Just because you love CP doesn't mean that I need to hear you bash SFMM and SFGL every other post.  Same for the GCI v. CCI thing.  Same for MF v. PR. Etc., etc., etc.

If you really try hard, coasters can be fun!!!

(BTW, I love CCI, PTC, GCI, Arrow, B&M, Scwartzkopf, even Vekoma.)

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Thursday, November 1, 2001 4:02 PM

To answer your question, to get a rise out of us.

Come on, it would be silly to think that a coaster enthusiast would seriously think that CCI makes bad coasters.
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Friday, November 2, 2001 2:51 AM
Jeff, you and the wife need to take a loooong weekend trip and hit Hershey and try Lightning Racer with those millennium flyer trains! Do Knoebles and Dorney while your out there as well!
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Friday, November 2, 2001 5:25 AM
I'll second John's suggestion.  Jeff, take yourself on a good PA roadtrip next year.  Coordinate with LoriU and myself, and we'll have us a grand old time :)

--Greg, who loves both CCI AND GCI, because there's plenty of room in this world for both.

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Friday, November 2, 2001 5:29 AM

Legendary said:
"Not to take anything away from your opinion, but I think you'd change your tune as soon as you ride a few top notch CCI's.  Great White is actually one of the worst CCI's I've come across. 
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Well then, since I have only ever encountered 2 CCI's, including Great White, and if that is fact one of the worst CCI's you have come across, then that only goes to prove what I was saying... both GCI and CCI are good companies if CCI's "worst" is actually pretty good.

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Friday, November 2, 2001 6:07 AM

SLFAKE said:

However, as far as favorite types go... give me a Schmeck designed coaster over any of the others (Pheonix is in a class by its self, Dorney's little Thunderhawk is fun, and Hershey's Comet may not be the biggest, fastest, or longest, but it is still my sentimental favorite).


Well put, let's hear it for those wonderful Herb Schmeck designs (and that Phoenix!).  You can put the peppy little Wildcat @ Lake Compounce and the wonderful Great Escape Comet on that list, too.
Back to the subject... while I am a fan of GCI coasters, I feel that the company has (so far) shown us that they can do one thing, and that is design wonderful twisters.  I find nothing wrong with that, but I find myself liking CCI coasters more because they design everything from simply out-and-backs to terrain coasters to racing twisters.  Variety is the spice of life.


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