Grade school kids confused for gang members at Elitch

Posted Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:12 AM | Contributed by GregLeg

Two children, ages 5 and 9, were told to turn their St. Louis Rams jerseys inside out this week at Six Flags Elitch Gardens. The park said that the number 13 represented gang activity and disrupted the family atmosphere of the park.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:28 PM
Yes, the five year old and the nine year old are gang members. No wonder Six Flags stock is going down. I don't care now because SFEG sucks and always will suck.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:31 PM
I just have that much less respect for Six Flags...especially the moron that made the asinine call that associated and 5 & 9 year old with a gang.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:41 PM
So let us degrade a nationwide company because of one bad call of one employee. If that is the way it goes, I'm going to stop caring Thursday when I go back to work because somebody already ruined the reputation of the park I work at.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:49 PM
I think everyone should go to an amusement park and wear a jersey with the #13 just to prove how stupid SF can be.......... Luckily my favorite football player Dan Marino has the #13 jersey.... hehehe
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:06 PM
Hmmm... SFEG is in Denver, yet the number 13 apparently stands for a street gang in Los Angeles. If I remember right from my Geogrophy class, LA is in California, and Denver is in Colorado. Besides, the shirt in the photos clearly said Warner above the number 13, not "Gang Banger". I know Warner isn't going to do this, but he should file some kind of defamation of character suit against SFEG for wrongfully connecting him with "some street gang in Los Angeles" and doing it so publicly. Also, I can think of other numbers that represent much more that they *Haven't* banned, as if stuff like that should be banned anyway. Seems like overkill to me.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:16 PM

I would find it funny if someone goes to a park with a jersy with the number 18 on it and see if you get kicked out or told to flip it inside out. If you don't then this park is really just being stupid.

As for this whole matter I feel that the park was with in their rights but I find this a bit too much to start requesting guest that they can not wear any sports jersy that has a number on it used by a gang. Also I find the news report a little too much also. It not like this is a HUGE travisty so I dont see the real need to report this.


I am from california (now living in montreal) and I can definantly tell you that the 5 year old does not look like he is in a gang. I have known people in gangs.

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:34 PM

Stealth-SFEG is good park, I know I bag on it sometimes to but you have to give them credit for how clean the park is and how nice some of the employees are. Sure, they don't have X or Goliath, but that isn't EG's fault, that is SF, so don't bag on SFEG, blame SF for that.

And quite frankly, you people amaze me. Do you think this is the only stupid thing that has happened at a park? Not every incident gets reported on the news. I am sure some of your "great" parks employees have done some pretty s***tty stuff too. This was one employee out of an entire park. I'm sorry SFEG can't compete with your perfect parks! You people make me laugh.

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:32 PM

Many gang members have children of their own. I wonder if they would dress them in their colors? Makes you think.

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:42 PM

Umm...last I checked, we were living in America...unless I missed an update somewhere. I will not tout the "freedom of speech and expression" tagline since we are censored, however when do you go to far?

By accusing a 5 year old wearing an obvious St Louis Rams jersey, with Warners name on it, of possibly being linked to a gang in another state. First, would a gang member in LA even be allowed to wear a Rams jersey? I think not.

Unless they were a gang who were tragically sadened and hurt by the move of the Rams to St Louis and felt that by wearing their jersey (specifically with the #13 since they all love Kurt Warner) and supporting the team through theft and fights, that they could bring their long lost team home.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:15 PM
I seriously think that the employee was just joking around, and the kids told their grandma and the grandma alerted the media. This entire thing is really not that serious.
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:29 PM
Im sorry but i would have loved to have that employee at Six Flags New England last weekend. Im sorry but i dont think my younger sister should be looking at a shirt that says "Shut the F*ck Up" in bold letters. If they have to enforce a rule on some people they have to enforce it on them all. Otherwise they would be sued for not doing that to all ages. (unless of course they dont do this at all, ever)

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:46 PM

"Billy, you can't wear that shirt today."

"But why Mom? It's just a Raiders uniform."

"Because Billy, you might pop a cap for not being given your props."

Please people, first metal detectors and now being thrown out for what you wear to the park. God, does anyone know what the First Amendment states anymore?

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:03 PM

As soon as I read this story it immediately pissed me off. I wear football and basketball jerseys alot....ALOT. So say I go to a theme park and wear my Priest Holmes jersey. I'm a typical 15 yearold kid who happens to be a pretty big guy and often mistake for a 17 or 18 year old. Are they going to make me turn my jersey inside out because it has the number 31? How does a number lower the family atmosphere?! If I was that kid I would notify every form of media I would think of because that is not acceptable from a corporation like Six Flags. Give me a break.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:20 PM
I work at an amusement park and I think I do a good job, who ever did this makes us all look bad. *** This post was edited by Joe the Coaster Man on 8/13/2002. ***
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:24 PM
Seems to me that thse people were holding a grudge against a team that is better than there own! LOL joke, but seriously, that is horrible, the day i see a 5 year old whit kid with his grandma packing heat, i will be the queen of the nile!

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:52 PM

Big Ups and Goo-goo-ga-ga to my Kindergarten Krew in Denver, CO!

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:34 PM
I think this is so stupid. Look my name has the number 13 in it
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:11 PM
Man This is wierd. When I was at Great America like 4 months ago 7 men where all wearing MATCHING blue hooded swetshirts and swetpants. I was really afraid because first thing that popped into my head was gang. And what were you talking about those kids were fairly innocent looking. Man just because they weren't happy in the photo doesn't mean that they are banging! But the question is whose St.louis ram's player is number 13. Also looks like I cant wear my High School Hockey jersey to Great America cause i'm number 13!

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:40 PM

This is a lose-lose situation for us at SFEG. If we use a blanket policy to attempt to keep the families and children safe from anything, even if it may be a little overkill, then we get criticized by both the media and enthusiasts. If we only make hispanic, african-american, or any other kids who 'look' like gang members change their clothes, then we get yelled at for discriminating and profiling. Sure the call that the employee made was overkill, but by putting everyone under a blanket we can eliminate the gang symbols and in the process make a few people have to turn their shirts inside out.

It is the same practice that is used in schools. Say a school outlaws the color red because it is a gang color in a local area. The school dos not allow anyone to wear that color. Not the straight A student body president who lives in a gated community and is obviously not a gang member, and not the hispanic kid from the ghetto whose family is on welfare. They put everyone under a blanket in an attempt to end all possible activity. This is the same thing that SFEG did.

And for those of you who spout off about freedom of speech, there is also something called the clear and present danger clause, which I believe SFEG was well within the lines of. It just makes me mad that you all can take a little instance that was blown out of proportion, and then proceed to put all of the blame for SFEG being neglected and SF stock going down on the actions of one employee.

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Wednesday, August 14, 2002 6:05 AM
AIIGHT Gam Man: why'd you think *gang* first hmm? What if they were all on the same track team? Oh that's right YOU DONT KNOW! And that's the same point here. If you all seriously believe that a person's age, or lack thereof, is an immediate disqualifier for so-called "gang activity" then you do not have a realistic view of society.

And for you making a big deal out of the "Rams" bit, they'd have been fine if they had on a Torry Holt jersey (88). It's the 13 that was the issue. And likely Gam Man you wouldn't be banned from having a 13 on your shirt @ SFGAm. But I'd watch my back wearing anything with a "pitch fork" on it (e.g. ASU perri).
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