Golden Nugget coming together at Knoebels as Black Diamond

Posted Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:19 PM | Contributed by Jeff

Knoebels bought the Golden Nugget’s track, trains and mechanics from Morey’s before it was demolished in 2009. The Black Diamond, will have the same track as the Golden Nugget, which was a favorite of the park’s president, Dick Knoebels. But the scenery and stunts will be new and will have a coal mining theme, said Joe Muscato of Knoebels. Two designers are working on plans for the track. The park will chose one of them. Even though Tracy’s original scenery and stunts won’t be part of the Black Diamond, the additions will be designed in his style to preserve the classic feel, Muscato said.

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Thursday, August 26, 2010 4:29 PM

The old Pioneer Tunnel in Ashland.... "Loved" the part where the tour group is standing in one of the tunnels of the mine and the guide points to the "roof" and the newer looking supports and tells how "a few years ago" this entire section caved in and was re-dug. (of course that was a few decades ago considering I was there sometime back in the 1970's and when I was a kid I was totally freaked out by it).

As for Black Diamond... even if it is only the blue prints, 5 feet of track, and one wheel from an old coaser train this seems like it is much closer to being complete than Flying Turns.

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:56 PM

Picture of BD from their Facebook page

Looks like the entire thing is going to be dark, and not have those turnarounds that stick out the side of the building like the Golden Nugget did.

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:46 AM

The outside turnaround is still there, but it is on the right side of the building (not visible in this picture). The upper deck which was originally open air will be enclosed though.

Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:14 PM
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Rick Knoebel was at ACE's No Coaster Con on Saturday and said the rest may be enclosed as well. They havent decided yet.

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Monday, January 17, 2011 7:47 AM
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But was he wearing shorts and sandals? :)

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Monday, January 17, 2011 2:03 PM
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Monday, January 17, 2011 10:03 PM

Kosmo put a picture of a new Black Diamond mine car on Facebook today.. it looks great. Just like the originals

Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:26 PM

There's now a picture of 2 miner manequin props on Kosmo's page if you havent looked lately

Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:49 PM

There are a bunch of new photos on the DAFE site

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Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:01 PM
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Thanks for the link, guys.

I'll be back in a little while. I have to go look for something. :p


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And I'm back again. That looks interesting.

Look at their un-detailed faces. I wonder if it is common a common design technique, since it is going to be dark in there. I've never noticed that anywhere before.

I will travel far to ride this. Aren't they working on another new coaster as well? I thought that I heard something about that. ;)

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:18 AM

Wow.. thanks for the link dude. That looks awesome.

Very cool that it looks like Jim Melonic is involved. That gives you a direct lineage right back to Bill Tracy, who themed the original Golden Nugget. I had heard that Jim and Eric Princz did a storyboard for Knoebels, theming the Black Diamond, but I never got word whether they were the winning proposal.

Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:44 PM

You sure you're willing to travel far to ride it? There's no hotel on site : )

Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:49 PM
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But there are still accommodations there, at the campground. There are also plenty of hotels nearby.

Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:09 PM

There are plenty of motels 15 miles away...... just like GA

Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:18 PM
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And there are plenty of cabins at Knoebels. I know cause I stayed in one in October...

So apparently they thought that adding in accomodations was a good thing. Oh, and they're even seasonal.

Now if they were only nicer/cleaner.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:54 PM
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A couple things I forgot to mention. Rick regretfully told us that the Black Diamond cars would need to have seatbelts. Everything else will remain the same. They felt it was to easy for people to stand up and possibly fall out of the cars.

Also, they have begun utilizing the accommodations they bought from the Geauga Lake campgrounds.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:12 PM

I figured they would need seat belts.. those 1960 restraints, or lack thereof wouldn't be grandfathered in.

Friday, February 4, 2011 2:21 PM

Kozmo put another pic up on FB today... the interior lighting looks cool

This may surpass the Nugget

Friday, February 4, 2011 3:58 PM

Looks sweet. Gonna have to get me some Knoebels again this year, with or without FT.

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Friday, February 4, 2011 4:24 PM
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^Me too - but man I wish they had an on-site hotel! ;)

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