Girl critical after riding Disney Tower of Terror...

Mission: Space pulls between 2 and 3Gs.

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Jim Fisher said:
Actually 2 minutes to start CPR is not too long, though quicker is always better.

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2 mins is not a long time? Hold your breath for 2 mins and lets see if that comment holds any validity when you're in need of air.

Even better- be the mother of the kid who died on Mission: Space and you're standing around for those two minutes watching as absolutely nothing is done to help your 4 year old child.

Tell that mother that two minutes isn't too long to start even the most basic of first aid.

Besides, that was just two minutes into the 911 call. How much time elapsed before the 911 call went out? How long did the mother sit on the ride holding her child's limp hand?

Is two minutes still quick enough?

*** Edited 7/13/2005 5:06:14 AM UTC by Michael Darling***

How about this...rather than expecting everyone to protect and save their child, perhaps parents should be trained in CPR when they have kids. What ever happened to personal responsibility? (And before you ask, yes, I do know CPR, but am no longer certified, and yes, I did perform it once on someone until medics arrived.)

I would say that is a good Idea as well. The difference? You can't force parents to learn CPR, however, a company wanting to make things better could force people at rides/shops/stalls to learn CPR.

I recall that the critical time to start CPR quoted by the Red Cross is 3 minutes. This is based on brain damage due to lack of oxygen. For obvious reasons your body starts to scream "Breathe" long before that critical time.

Current Red Cross advice is to actually call 911 before starting CPR if you are the only rescuer available. They seem to think that getting life support there soon is worth the extra 30 seconds or so.

Also remember that if the total elapsed time was 2 minutes to remove the child from the ride, activate the emergency system, verify that the child needed CPR and then start, things were happening pretty fast. Of course, that 2 minutes had to seem like 2 eternities to the parents.

Then why was the 911 dispatcher at the M:S incident more concerned with getting everyone's names at the scene than asking if the kid was breathing?

Over a minute and a half passed during the 911 call before anyone said "he's not breathing." That was a minute and a half completely wasted.

If I can find the link to the 911 call audio again I'll post it so you can hear just how sad the response was.

Hey, does anybody have any more info on the TOT girl?

So Michael...blame the 911 operator and not the ride.

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TeknoScorpion said:
You can't force parents to learn CPR, however, a company wanting to make things better could force people at rides/shops/stalls to learn CPR.

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I think that goes way beyond the services a park is to provide. Imagine the lawsuits when the guy who runs the merry-go-round tries to recessitate the guest who just collapsed, and the guest does not make it. Or the guy who lives, only to sue the park because the employee hurt his chest trying to revive him. Scumbag lawyers would have a field day with multi billion dollar theme parks. I think the parks are required to provide safe rides and safe environments and that is all. If someone dies as a result of malfunction of the ride or operator that is a whole different story. This is just one of those things like Jeff said, "stuff happens"

Wahoo-

I wasn't blaming any rides. I was blaming poor training and procedures. If you read my previous posts you'll see that I mention that Disney rides aren't any more dangerous than any other rides.

I blame Disney corporate for trying to squeeze every last cent out of the parks rather than properly train their staff and properly protect their guests.

The rides aren't at fault. The bean counters are.

AEDs... are all over the place at Disney and Universal. (Of course Firehoses also used to be, but now they are too dangerous to keep around.)

Michael... 2 minutes would be considered excellent response time in any city for emergency personnel. Call 911 and see how long it takes them to find you and assess the situation and begin treatment. I would also suspect you would find more Disney Cast Members who are trained in CPR than the TOTAL number of Employees who work for an amusement park such as Cedar Point (just a guess though)

Perhaps every driver should be required to learn CPR since its more likely you will be injured in the car on the way to a theme park than at the park.

Everyone should know at least basic lifesaving skills. There's a reason you learned a bit of it in health class in high school, you know.

I'm certified in CPR, are you?

AEDs are great inventions. Having them accessable everywhere is awesome. But having them where they're always reachable becomes useless unless there are people around who knows how to use them.

And my name's still not Michael.

"And my name's still not Michael."
Then why does your name say "Michael Darling"?

Just wondering!