Now their copying B&M rides?!?!
Thats like having Toyota try to build a Beemer. Just kidding with that one. :) *** Edited 5/14/2005 6:16:04 PM UTC by Corkscrewy***
As far as I'm aware Anaconda has a completely unique layout.
If you're saying they stole the idea for an inverted coaste, well then so did Vekoma, you can even say B&M based their idea off the Arrow suspended coasters.
Also if you take a look you will see thet Anaconda has 2 across seating where as B&M coasters have 4.
I don't see what your issue is.
I don't see the big deal here.
Do we all know this?
Some of us know that Giovanola came up with the box track (see Z-Force/Shockwave), the four across stand-up, the first generation freefalls and more or less anything that is referred to as INTAMIN up to the mid-nineties.
Gio used to build all this stuff for Intamin and Bolliger and Mabillard used to be on Giovanolas payroll before they formed their own office.
Sadly, after a history of being a huge steel manufacturer and builder for over a hundred years, Giovanola went out of business a few years ago.
Two obvious differences:
1. There is a 540 degree spiraling downward helix.
2. There is a double corkscrew - something you don't find on Beemers.
And of course, there is very elaborate scenery and there are 2-across trains, not 4-across, as pointed out by Danimal - all that B:TR doesn't have.
Note to self -> Always check RCDB. :)
Ummm...corkscrewy? Did you check out the other photos of that coaster? The only thing similar to B&M's Batman is the first three inversions.
I don't see the big deal here.
Number one: It's not a big deal, just interesting.
Number two: The first three inversions of any B:TR (and this ride, too, it would appear) are about half of the entire ride. More, if you count the lift hill and first drop.
Number three: I did look at the other pictures, and while the rest is not identical with B:TR, I found it to be highly reminisent of that storied coaster form.
Off hand, it does look quite a bit rip-offish, to me. But, since B:TR is such a great coaster, and B&M and Giovanola may have some sort of working relationship, I just think it's neat and kind of wierd to see a ride that looks so much like a B:TR but isn't.
Hope these two links are able to clear up the confusion between the two companies. *** Edited 5/15/2005 6:46:52 AM UTC by Al Miner***
tricktrack said:and Bolliger and Mabillard used to be on Giovanolas payroll before they formed their own office.
Actually, they and several other employees worked for "Uncle" Sandor at Intamin before going off to form thier own company.
The second article however is pure fantasy and a reason why that website has its notorious reputation. I actually laughed several times when I read this hillarious story. Or did you know that the term "inverted" coaster was coined by a british kids-tv presenter in 1994 in referrence to Nemesis?!? And didn´t we all suspect that Drachenfire was originally designed by B&M but built by Arrow (for whatever reason)?!?
The myth of B&M is really becoming an urban legend in the enthusiast world.
*** Edited 5/15/2005 9:06:05 AM UTC by tricktrack***
In my not-so-humble opinion, Anaconda is the best inverted coaster I have ever been on for sheer relentless non stop intensity.
And you're right corkscrewy... if I didn't know, I would say that was a B&M Invert being built. Same track, supports, everything.
(Those seats looks UNCOMFORTABLE! They also appear to use fin braking instead of box-beam B&M brakes. *** Edited 5/15/2005 4:07:21 PM UTC by pkidelirium***
This is the same company who built what most consider the worlds most intense elements on a coaster, the Goliath and Titan helices
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