Getting back on a coaster
If you see an empty seat, and no one gets into the line while you are sitting there, then to me, its perfectly fine. Most the time, PKD says that if someone not in your line, then you may ride again.
I don't see why anyone would care seeing as if you didn't ride again, the seat would be empty.
I was at PKD one night near closing, and I was the only person on the whole train, in the back seat on Rebel Yell backwards. I think I rode it about 4 times in a row without getting off. It was nice.
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Rob
"Some people spend an entire LIFETIME wondering if they made a DIFFERENCE. The MARINES don't have that problem." -President Reagan 1985
That's where it gets tricky. Let's say the train comes back, gates open, people board, you see an open seat and take it. It depends how fast you take that seat. The ride ops may look for a single rider if there are a lot of people waiting. THAT is linejumping. You could easily be taking a seat from a single rider because if you have time to get back on the train before the exit airgates close(if there are any) you must be jumping back on the train pretty quickly.
Now, if there is no one waiting for your row and seat or if you see an empty station and you jump to another empty seat, there is nothing wrong with it.
*** This post was edited by the thrill 2 on 10/31/2002. ***
I consider it linejumping (when there is a line) if a rider attempts to board an empty seat, because they ride twice without waiting in line twice. Also, letting folks do this really pisses other people in line off, and eventually everyone gets mad at me, and that's something I generally avoid.
Like I said... empty station, ride ride ride away.
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the member formerly known as MisterX
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Lifts are for wimps. Real enthusiasts use the power of their minds to make the trains go up the first hill.
I say it's line-jumping in any case. Everyone else walks around to the front of the line, so why can't enthusiasts do it too?
Even if there's no one in the station, you are probably jumping ahead of several people who are walking through the queue toward the station.
Just walk around. You probably need the exercise anyway.
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Den said:
Everyone else walks around to the front of the line, so why can't enthusiasts do it too?
Once again, Den, this has nothing to do with enthusiasts vs. GP. In fact, I would venture to say that GP does it more than enthusiasts, but regardless, no one said anything about enthusiasts doing and GP not doing it.
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Well, 99% of the time when I go to parks, I'm with non-enthusiasts, and I've never heard anyone suggest this; however, all the enthusiasts on this site have either heard of it or done it themselves.
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A day is a drop of water in the ocean of eternity. A week is seven drops.
When the ride is dead I ask. Yes or no. If no I will walk back around.
Its not linejumping at all. If its okay with the ops and everyone else is seated the airgates are closed then I see no problem.
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Be nice to ride op's. No matter how slow unfriendly and uncaring they may seem Most work hard to make your day great.
*** This post was edited by PKIEMPSOB on 10/31/2002. ***
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smile...it's cheap, and people will wonder what you're up to. :)
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the member formerly known as MisterX
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Lifts are for wimps. Real enthusiasts use the power of their minds to make the trains go up the first hill.
Gator: Viper is one of the better rides on which to do this. Marathon riding on Viper while actually using the defined queues takes too damn long.
I've done it before during REALLY empty days at parks, but whenever there's a relatively full station (and a few empty seats on a train that I could squirm into) I tend to shy away from it.
Of course, I am probably (no, DEFINATELY) the only person here that has REFUSED a re-ride.
Shockwave at SFGAm, back in May. It was cold and rainy. There may have been 4 people in the entire station. Our train gets back, and the ride op says (nonchelantly), "If you want to like, stay on, feel free."
Before he could get the 'e' out in free, I said, "God no! But thanks for the offer..." He looked like he knew what I was getting at.
I guess that makes me weird or something. :)
-Matt, who thinks that SFGAm may want to stop creating exit pathways that take more time to traverse than the ride itself.
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I-Nar said:
Gator: Viper is one of the better rides on which to do this. Marathon riding on Viper while actually using the defined queues takes too damn long.
(snippet) Of course, I am probably (no, DEFINATELY) the only person here that has REFUSED a re-ride.
Shockwave at SFGAm, back in May. It was cold and rainy. There may have been 4 people in the entire station. Our train gets back, and the ride op says (nonchelantly), "If you want to like, stay on, feel free."
-Matt, who thinks that SFGAm may want to stop creating exit pathways that take more time to traverse than the ride itself.
ROFL....no kidding, PKI's raft ride has the only queue that can compare....I call the exit from SFAGm's Viper "The Gurnee marathon". Walking that exit, and queue, for more than a couple rides would be a full day's exercise...
Rain and cold are the only good reasons to refuse a re-ride...unless you're on Psyclone or Rolling Chunder....
On Corkscrew, we have no airgates, so even as we're standing with our thumbs up and the controls op says "clear" people go running for the train and try to jump in. Seeing it start moving is apparently no deterrent, because they think "Oh, an empty seat, they'll definitely hold this train AND the two full ones in the blocks just for me to get in!"
We have a 22-second interval. Basically, when the train gets back, we have 22 seconds (actually much less if we had to bump your train up to the ready brakes before bringing it in to the station) to get you out, get anyone else in, pop the restraint pedals, and check the seats...and dispatch again.
When you ride, and you're done, there are different scenarios. A) There are people in line for your seat, in which case you can't ride again. B) There are no people in line for your seat, but there are people in line for other seats. Not everyone in the train can ride again, therefore, neither can you. C) There is NOBODY in line.
See, C is where I run into a problem explaining things to guests. I believe it's a safety issue on a ride like mine. We have a pattern. Pop the pedals, let people out, pop the pedals back up, check the seats. If we take a step out of there, I feel that it leaves room for error. What if I popped the pedal to release your restraint, and you said "I wanna go again..." so I said "OK" and just stepped back? I didn't check your harness because you just rode. The pedal is down, the restraint is released. I put my thumb up.
I know that it could waste an entire 45 seconds of your too short day to walk around the queues once more, but I think it's safer that way, and in the big picture, it's fair to the people that rode once earlier in the day, and had to wait 20 minutes for that one ride.
Alan--PTC/ScrewCrew02
Plus, who knows, if the line's dead, we might be trying to get clearance to transfer a train off. Plus, if you re-ride, who turns the turnstile for you? We've had over 30 million unique riders. We want the count to be at least CLOSE to accurate :-P
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"It's always better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it" - ME
I usually do it because I'm allowed, and no one is in the station. If people want the seat I'm in, they would have gotten in the line, otherwise, if no one is it in, its all mine. :)
Personally, I do it because I don't feel like walking around again. For those who have been to PKD, Rebel Yell and Hurlers enterance and exit are far apart, and a long walk through the line. I don't see why they don't tear down Rebel Yell's queue and just make it shorter. The longest it ever is up the hill going into the station. ;/
For the record when I spoke of the "mooshies," especially the three friends of mine who are experts at this, I should have mentioned that our vulturing is done ONLY during ERT times, not when the GP is riding.
Heck...at SRM, we had people pointing to their empty seats and saying, "Come on! Take it! Ride with me!" LOL!
There's a time and place for everything.
Moosh
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*** This post was edited by Mamoosh on 11/1/2002. ***
Den said:
Well, 99% of the time when I go to parks, I'm with non-enthusiasts, and I've never heard anyone suggest this; however, all the enthusiasts on this site have either heard of it or done it themselves.
Well, 99% of the people on this site have heard of CP's new ride and most non-enthusiasts haven't. Does that mean that it's only for enthusiasts?
The reason that all the enthusiasts have heard of/seen/done it is because they spend orders or magnitude more time at/thinking about parks than the GP.
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rollergator said:
ROFL....no kidding, PKI's raft ride has the only queue that can compare....I call the exit from SFAGm's Viper "The Gurnee marathon". Walking that exit, and queue, for more than a couple rides would be a full day's exercise...
This is true, but walking down the exit of Viper has its share of.... "eye-candy" with the likes of watching a Viper or Raging Bull train run their respective courses.
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